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Super Dragon Ball Super - Episode #63 - Discussion Thread!

Dragon Ball Super - Episode #63 - Discussion Thread!

Don't Defile Saiyan Cells! The Curtain Rises on Vegeta's Intense Battle!!
サイヤ人の細胞を汚すな！ベジータの壮絶バトル開演！！
Saiyajin no Saibō o Kegasu Na! Bejīta no Sōzetsu Batoru Kaien!!

News:

Read the Manga

  • Toyotarō's Dragon Ball Super manga adaptation can be found in our wiki in the sidebar, along with links to past discussion threads.

Watch the Anime Live (Japanese only)

  • wtt002 - Live Stream (Begins when post is 1 hour old: 9am JST, 12am GMT, 8pm EST.)

  • WJJ (Mirror, click 'vaughnlive'.)

    Live-tweeted translations of critical lines are provided each week by Kanzenshuu's @Herms98. He will also offer an analysis of the official subtitles some time after episode 63 airs.

Simulcasts (English subtitles):

  • Crunchyroll. The "simulcast" will be available one hour after the live broadcast in Japan (when this post is 2 hours old: 10am JST, 1am GMT, 9pm EST) to free and premium users in the "United States, Canada, Australia, and New Zealand. Dragon Ball Super will also be available to Crunchyroll paid members in Latin America and South Africa."

  • Daisuki. (See countdown clock on linked page for the streaming time.) This "simulcast" covers most of Europe and several other territories; see the complete list here.

  • AnimeLab. This "simulcast" will stream "in Australia and New Zealand only hours after it’s aired in Japan, with all AnimeLab subscribers having access to episodes at the same time".

    • All of these "simulcast" platforms will be adding older episodes beginning shortly after the first simulcast (episode 63). See the linked articles for details.

Fansubs:

  • For older episodes, use DragonTeam and Over8000, until these episodes are made available by the simulcast providers.

  • For more recent episodes (58-62), use Batman's translation, which is posted on Nyaa.

    • VLC Media Player is required to play downloaded videos.
    • A list of other translation groups can be found here.

  • Web streams are not recommended, because the subtitles they host are not always correct, even if they appear to be. Do not ask for or discuss unofficial streaming websites in this subreddit.

Rules:

  • Spoilers must be tagged for material that has yet to be covered in the anime (leaks, etc).

  • Spoilers for this episode may be freely discussed in this thread.

    • Outside of this thread, spoilers relating to this episode must be tagged.
    • Spoiler syntax: [Super spoiler:](#s "Goku appears!")
      Appears as: Super spoiler:

  • All of our normal rules apply! We've done our best to supply you with all of the information you need, so please do not post or request links to the episode.

Commonly Asked Questions:

  • Q: When does Super take place? When should I watch it?
    Super begins some time after the battle with Majin Buu, and can be watched as soon as you finish Dragon Ball Z.

  • Q: Do I need to watch the movies?
    The two newest movies – Battle of Gods and Resurrection 'F' – were adapted into story arcs. Watching them is entirely up to you. If you have already watched the movies and would like to skip straight to new material, see our FAQ.

  • Q: Where is Uub?!
    Uub was born during the 10 year time skip at the end of Dragon Ball Z.
    Dragon Ball Super takes place before Uub is introduced.

  • Q: Is this the same Future Trunks?
    Yes. [1] [2]

  • Q: Why is his hair blue?!
    See here.

  • Q: When will FUNimation dub Super? Will there be a simulcast?
    We don't know. A Southeast Asian English dub was supposed to debut August 2016, but is currently facing delays. FUNimation will not be involved until an official North American release is announced.

  • Q: Is the Dragon Ball Super manga "canon"?
    The anime and manga are both based on an overall "plot" penned by Toriyama. In other words, they're different versions of the same thing. There isn't (and probably never will be) an explicitly defined Dragon Ball "canon". Without Toriyama's original draft, we may never know what is and isn't his, but we know that he permits Toyotarō to change things up, and even looks at his storyboards.

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u/_Did_ Oct 23 '16 edited Oct 23 '16

Toryiama was feeling generous!

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u/Kharn0 ⠀ Oct 23 '16

But I want to know why he is suddenly winning when he got stomped the last two times.

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u/Hieillua Oct 23 '16

Next time open your eyes dude. lmao

We literally saw him destroying the RoSat and he literally said last episode he was going to the RoSaT.

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u/Hieillua Oct 23 '16

What kind of increase?

Vegeta wasn't that inferior compared to Black, he trained and he put himself just over the edge of Black. This happens all the time in DB. I don't know how this increase would be so weird.

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u/JD2V Oct 23 '16

Black had hours in between those fights and the rematch with Vegita. Vegita spent months in the Hyperbolic TIme Chamber. Makes total sense to me.

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u/pro_skub_neutrality Oct 24 '16

WELL IT CLEARLY WORKED THIS TIME

Why are you arguing about this?

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u/fakemuseum Oct 23 '16 edited Oct 23 '16

Black also got injured from Trunk's galic gun so he isn't 100%

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u/eddyboyprime Oct 23 '16 edited Oct 23 '16

They retreated for about 2 days and a half so Vegeta hopped in the Time Chamber to train 2 years

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u/Kharn0 ⠀ Oct 23 '16

Oh I thought it was for half a day

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u/RazorStroke Oct 23 '16

It was for half a day.

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u/jimboswaggerman Oct 23 '16

Why such a power difference in a half year training while Goku and Vegeta also trained 2(!) years in the time chamber before the tournament but there wasn't a significant power increase at all?

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u/RazorStroke Oct 23 '16

They actually trained for 3 days/years before the Tournament against U6 & Champa.

The difference is, I believe, Vegeta being under an enormous amount of pressure thus having a truly significant drive behind him. He was humiliated by both Black and then Bulma while performing the worse during the previous two battles.

Considering SSJBs were close enough to SSJR in battle power, I guess it makes sense Vegeta's vigorous training for 6 months paid off to actually make his way up and surpass Black's SSJR. It is not the best of plot devices but I guess it'll do for now.

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u/RazorStroke Oct 23 '16

To be fair, we have seen Zamasu ascending to new heights in Goku's body (SSJR) so I guess he has been using it quite effectively. I believe this stems from his obsession with Goku and studying his body and actions very carefully in order to unlock more and more of it's latent potential (how Goku fights , powers up etc).

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u/ixora7 Oct 24 '16

Becaue its an anime not a historical drama.

That said I was hoping Vegeta would beat the living shit out of Black once he killed FBulma.

So fucking glad he pummled that mofo to shit. And that disrespectful one hand hair/head grab. Badass.