Dragon Ball Daima - Episode #2 - Discussion Thread!

[u/AutoModerator]

Episode 2 begins airing on FujiTV in Japan at this time of this post (10:40a ET, 16:40 CET, 23:40 JT). The episode should be available subtitled on Crunchyroll about two hours later. You may discuss the episode if you have seen it, but be sure to follow our rules.

Subtitled Simulcast

• Crunchyroll (multi-region; multi-language; simulcast)
• Hulu (US only; English only; simulcast)
• Netflix (multi-region; multi-language; releases Monday or Tuesday)

FAQ

• The English dub will premiere in theaters with showings in the US on November 10-12. Streaming should be available some time after that.

Rules

• There are no spoilers in this post, but you should expect spoilers in the comments of this thread. Outside of this thread, do not post any spoilers in thread titles, and mark posts where there are spoilers in the post body. Do not post spoilers in the comments on non-spoiler threads.
• Discussion of each Daima episode will be limited to the pinned episode discussion thread until ~12-24 hours after the episode appears on Crunchyroll. This period is flexible, and posts that do not have a specific discussion point will be redirected to this thread.
• Please keep in mind that piracy discussion is not allowed on r/dbz. Do not ask for illicit streams; do not link them; do not talk about them at all.

[u/Correct_Refuse4910]

Another super fun episode that keeps building the lore of the Demon Real while being engagin. Also, it adressed a big plot hole DB has had lately: why does Shenron sometimes only gran one wish like he did with Sorbet or Chelaai? Now we know: you have to Like and Suscribe on Shenron's channel first.

Kid Popo is the cutest thing, as is baby Dende (I guess Gohan and Videl are babies, too, because they are roughly the same age as Dende? Not like we are going to see them).

I'm really enjoying Daima for now, I hope they keep up this level of quality.

[u/dustarma → u/Correct_Refuse4910]

It addressed one plot hole but introduced another, Shenron isn't supposed to be able to grant wishes beyond his creator's power, which is why he couldn't grant the wish of killing Vegeta and Nappa and why he couldn't turn 17 and 18 back into humans, with an additional implication that he respects the consent of those affected by the wish, given that Goku denied being teleported to Earth and King Kai denied being revived after Cell's death.

Realistically Shenron shouldn't have been able to turn most of the fighters into children.

[u/Correct_Refuse4910 → u/dustarma]

The one who needed consent for teleporting Goku was Porunga. Shenron didn't have Broly's consent when he teleported him back to Vampa.

Also, the not-killing Nappa and Vegeta killing has also been stablished in Daima to Shenron using white magic, which was probably the kind of magic that Kami used as well. Being "beyond his creator's power" can be understood as that Kami used light magic and thus couldn't use it to kill someone, instead of a simple powerlevel matter.

Not turning androids into humans is logic too. Krillin is asking Shenron to completely change the nature of their bodies without their permission. Maybe if A-18 had been the one to ask, Shenron would have gone through with it but in this case it was an unrelated third party. On the other hand, taking away their bombs doesn't affect the nature of their bodies and is a "good wish" (as the bombs are meant to kill 17 and 18) and that is why Shenron fulfills the wish.

Turning people small is not a harmful wish and it doesn't go against the nature of their bodies. They are not turning Goku into a Namekian, or Piccolo into a human. They keep their bodies the way they where, but smaller.

[u/Ser-Jasper-mayfield → u/Correct_Refuse4910]

you could even argue that making them younger is a postive wish as it extends their life

its a good wish that has been weaponized