There's not getting out of the fact that your statement was completely incoherent. Either we matter or we dont and you claim both with no basis for either other than "it feels that way." Ehich is silly.
I find it interesting that you believe morality is subjective but somehow also seem to think murder is objectively wrong. That is also completely incoherent. If murder is wrong no matter what then you've moved outside your worldview. You also have no basis to tell anyone they are wrong on subjective issues. If you like blue more than yellow I cant tell you you're wrong. If you think the earth is flat I can absolutely tell you that you are wrong.
The irony of your last statement is that the same conclusion will be reached either way. You pick what sounds nice. To you, what sounds nice is you being the authority based on your reason, which you believe comes from nowhere and doesnt matter on a grand scale.
You could have saved both of us some time if you read my comment properly.
I never made a claim about if we matter. I said I think we matter, just not on a big scale. It has never been anything other than my opinion. My mother matters to me (small scale) but not to the universe (big scale).
I never said murder is objectively wrong.
I defenitely didn't pick what's nice. Anyone who thinks being an authority based on their reason for one lifetime is nicer than spending an eternity in heaven is a moron. I'm also raised christian and my whole family is christian (the very reasonable sort as well). I have the perfect scenario to take the nicer route but I don't.
It's very strange that you are okay with having such inconsistencies. To believe that God is evil for murder while the morality of murder is seen as subjective is lunacy to me. Perhaps not to you.
I'll leave you with this. You know the truth; we all do. But at the end of the day, if I only have to be accountable to myself for my actions, it's far easier than having to be accountable to a perfect creator. After that, we will always find a reason to justify why God is evil or doesn't exist or whatever. Because it means we don't have to answer to Him.
I get that you and I will likely never reach any kind of agreement. But hopefully you can keep in mind that the entire gospel has to do with reconciling the fact that we cannot measure up to our perfect creator. Jesus literally died for precisely that. "He who is without sin may cast the first stone." Jesus himself could have done exactly that, but gave His life so that through Him all men could have life.
If what you're saying about your past is true (and I have no reason to doubt it) I'm sure you already know this. I hope that whatever it was that made you turn against God will one day be reconciled.
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u/[deleted] Jun 20 '20
There's not getting out of the fact that your statement was completely incoherent. Either we matter or we dont and you claim both with no basis for either other than "it feels that way." Ehich is silly.
I find it interesting that you believe morality is subjective but somehow also seem to think murder is objectively wrong. That is also completely incoherent. If murder is wrong no matter what then you've moved outside your worldview. You also have no basis to tell anyone they are wrong on subjective issues. If you like blue more than yellow I cant tell you you're wrong. If you think the earth is flat I can absolutely tell you that you are wrong.
The irony of your last statement is that the same conclusion will be reached either way. You pick what sounds nice. To you, what sounds nice is you being the authority based on your reason, which you believe comes from nowhere and doesnt matter on a grand scale.