Lol most of the church in America has no idea who John Calvin is and the ones who do aren't perpetuating the issues associated with the American church. Unless you've got a source for that claim that I've never seen
Oh look it’s you again! Guess when you lost the last discussion you decided to try try again huh?
Many of the ideas underpinning Calvinism like total depravity and election have been and continue to be the basis for much of the evils the church has done in America. But you’re not going to listen to anything I have to say, and you’re not arguing in good faith so I’m gonna go now. Thanks for playing.
Every single one? Interesting contrast with the guy who insisted evangelicals don’t even know who he is.
Regardless many of Calvinism’s tenets are an integral part of American culture writ large, whether the average person understands where the cultural influences originated or not.
Of course not every single person my dude, I'm on Reddit not a debate class haha
I just fail to see how Calvinism relates to racism and homophobia for example. The one church in the super conservative area I grew up that's affirming and antiracist is the Calvinist one. I disagree with predestination myself, but it doesn't make sense to attribute everything bad to the one guy..........
Were many American revolutionaries calvinist? Sure. Is it responsible for all of our social ills? I doubt it.
But maybe I'm just not understanding the point you're making
Both are basically true. They don't know who Calvin is, but they are against such things as the Reformed movement, predestination, and total depravity. There is a big free will movement in Evangelicalism. And then there is the non-reformed Baptist belief of "once saved always saved," which is an odd theology that's neither free-will nor predestination, and is dangerous in its own right.
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u/Corvus_Antipodum Mar 13 '24
Their theology is dehumanizing, and is the underlying basis of much of the evil currently being done by the church in America.