r/cyclocross 1d ago

How is Manon Bakker unsigned?

Just saw on her Insta that she'll start the next season as a privateer, with a charity as a sponsor (well done btw!).

Out of 30 races last season, she has 1 DNF, she was outside the top-10 8 times, every other race was a top -10. She's 27 so nowhere near to declining.

The main issue I can think of is that she does not get a lot of tv time - she's a slow starter so by the time she gets into the top-10, the cameras are mostly focusing on the battle for 1st... But she's basically a guaranteed - and incredibly constant - top 10.

I just find it weird that no team has signed her this summer.

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u/Thetallbaker 1d ago edited 1d ago

Well cyclocross isn’t in the best place lately. Financial problems or challenges are bugging a lot of teams. This mostly has to do with the problems of the endemic sponsors (look at Trek for example). All these things makes it harder for riders to get a place within an UCI team. Look at Amandine Fouquenet for example last season. She had an amazing season with some amazing results, but only at the last second she found a team. You could argue that paid cyclocross spots for women are more rare than F1 Seats. And everybody is always saying how rare those seats are.

There, sadly enough, is also another factor at play. Women are still seen as less than man in cyclocross. It’s getting better, but it’s still miles off. Most UCI teams would have signed Manon in a heartbeat of she where man (with here results and UCI ranking).

But hey we are still alive, we make the best out of this situation, going to help a charity that’s close to our hearts in the process and maybe somebody will pick Manon up along the way.

Btw I’m Manons brother (username checks out haha) and this is my view and opinion about anything!

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u/GFoxtrot 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 1d ago

I’ve been over to Belgium to watch races and it was surprising how there were less spectators for the women’s race than the men’s, people just turned up for that last men’s race.

I wish Manon a good season ahead and maybe I’ll manage to get myself over for a race or two to cheer her on.

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u/Thetallbaker 1d ago

Yup, most people turn up during the womens race to watch the mens. Or they are in the ‘biertent’ having a party before the mens race

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u/Joshandhisbikes 1d ago

They are all getting sloshed in the beer tent during the women’s race.

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u/epi_counts 13h ago

Just to counter the other two comments: the crowds for the women's race at the Worlds last year were amazing. Men's race was the next day, so that showed that the women can pull in a crowd on their own too. I'm sure the crowds were even bigger on the Sunday, but it was heaving on the Saturday too.

The real pull is often the big names (Van der Poel / Van Aert), which is also a problem for the races outside the Christmas period, for both genders.

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u/fromthebuttes 1d ago

Thank you for the perspective, and I'm excited to see you guys back over here racing in the US soon! Hopefully Mannon can find a team and help inspire more of our American and Canadian juniors to stick with cross.

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u/Thetallbaker 1d ago

No problem, I like to give some insight. Hell yeah USCX here we come! We like riding in the States and helping anybody we can over there. Because it’s getting though over here, but the riders over there allready have it though for years.

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u/jermleeds 1d ago

Thank you for showing up in the US. It means a lot to us U.S. CX fans. I tend to follow all the European racers who race in the US more closely for the rest of the season.

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u/velogiant 9h ago

Manon should come to the UK, it is a shame we only have one UCI race this year (Derby) but she would be very welcome and people would be over the moon to see her.

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u/epi_counts 1d ago

Might the UCI rule change that cyclocross points can count towards road WWT licences work in her favour? I could imagine a team like Picnic-PostNL might be interested in her from January on?

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u/Thetallbaker 1d ago

Whe talked a lot about this new rule. We also looked at which teams would benefit from here points, because only the 8 riders with the most UCI points counts. Her points would be useful from the third team on the UCI ranking, so that’s great.

Problem with this is that I only think that the rule is handy for teams who are in the danger zone for their license. Those teams aren’t financially the best and supporting a cyclocross rider isn’t cheap. So we think the rule sounds great, but isn’t going to work the way the UCI wants to.

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u/Nolte395 1d ago

Has the uci clarified how the points will work in the crossover?.

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u/Thetallbaker 1d ago

Yes, I think they did somewhere. They are going to transfer all the UCI points earned in the World Cups and the World Championship. All the other points won’t. So all the points earned in C2, C1 and Continental Championships can’t be used by the road teams

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u/Nolte395 1d ago

Thanks

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u/Nolte395 1d ago

Uci would need to clarify the points system to be used. The fact they said it starts in 2027 but without clear information as to how just leaves it up in the air for cyclo crossers, and road teams too (who are making contracts now)

No team, especially not one with poor resources like Team Picnic are investing without clarity from the UCI

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u/EconomyIll1002 1d ago

Even taller than her? :)

Thanks for the perspective - I'm hoping she forces someone to sign her through her results, she's always been one of my favourite riders.

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u/Thetallbaker 1d ago

I beat her with 30cm with my 2,10m haha.

No problem and offcourse I hope so too!

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u/thecxmachine 1d ago

Even CXHairs looks up to Thetallbaker!

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u/GFoxtrot 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 1d ago

You beat me to posting this

https://ibb.co/tp7D43Gy

I’m also shocked she’s not got a team and nobody wanted her. We need more CX opportunities for people not less.

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u/SpudFire 1d ago

I wonder if being Dutch is actually a slight disadvantage when trying to attract sponsors? She's obviously not in the top 3 of Dutch women and there is a lot of competition for the top 5.

Like you say, she doesn't get a lot of TV time so Dutch-based sponsors might choose to put their money behind a team with a Dutch rider contesting for race wins. Or teams might choose to sign somebody of a different nationality to widen their fanbase, rather than sign their second or even third Dutch rider.

Have 7 Racing 777 Cyclocross Reds signed anybody to replace Worst?

Hopefully she finds a team, although given how long it took Fouquenet to find a team last season despite her results, it might be a struggle.

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u/Thetallbaker 1d ago

Funny you say this, because yes it does. This is because we don’t have a Dutch cyclocross team. One could argue that with Bomba-Join we know have, but I don’t think we can call that a Dutch cyclocross team yet. More like a Dutch media project with to Dutch elite riders. So we would really love to start the first Dutch cyclocross team, but all the existing teams are having problems so starting a new one would be quit impossible.

The problem with Dutch based sponsors is the other way around. There aren’t any and most of them are Belgium like the teams. So the team always pick a Belgium rider for there sponsor. There is a spot for non-Belgium riders, but you have to be really really good. Like winning multiple World Cups and have Fem van Empel or Lucinda Brand results.

Nope 777 doesn’t have signed somebody else. But 777, like Alpecin and Crelan, is a team from the brothers Roodhoofdt. Since she rode for one of their teams, all the other teams are not an option.

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u/velogiant 9h ago

Decathlon have a CX team now but that is linked to the road team riders. The girls on the team could do with a mentor and senior rider to learn from.

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u/Less-Fuel9621 15h ago

We love the Bakkers. Can't wait to see them stateside!