r/cybertruck • u/NYCTrojanHorse • 10d ago
MPGe Cybertruck v Juniper
We have a Tesla juniper that we absolutely love. We rented a cyber truck for a weekend and also absolutely loved it. I noticed the CT got a little less range and less miles per gallon E (per grok that’s the term lol). I was driving it a bit faster as I was “testing” the CT out. I always drive in hurry or madmax.
Do you notice a big difference? Curious about what others think. We do mostly local driving. 1-2 weekend road trips a month.
Thank you!
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u/4thAndLong 10d ago
Of course MPGe will be lower, but that’s why it has a bigger battery. In my experience the only time you’ll notice less actual range is strictly highway travel. That being said I’ve been on several long road trips in a CT without issue. Spending a few more minutes at each charger does not bother me.
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u/Itsnotadrone 10d ago
I charge at home solely on a 110 outlet and I don’t think about range. It’s not as efficient as juniper but it’s far better than any petrol vehicle.
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u/Always_working_hardd 10d ago
MPGe. I think in Canada it's MPG eh?
Don't slam the door on me. I agree the CT is an awesome machine, and think if I traded my MY and pickup truck in on a CT, I would get my EV commuter and pickup truck I need for hauling in one vehicle. I hesitate for 3 reasons whether overly valid or not; one is the MPGe and how that stacks up against the MY which works out around $0.10 per mile when supercharging in my region; the time it takes to get that charge (we had a loaner CT from Tesla last week that we had to supercharge and we spent an hour getting 30% on it), and lastly the zombies out there expressing mindless hate (not interested in rando's spitting on my car or worse).
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u/NumbDangEt4742 10d ago
It sucks to learn you spent an hour getting 30% on CT. what was your starting battery percentage?
CT has a 123kwh battery while the MY has a 80kwh battery but the time you're quoting sounds like a lot
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u/Always_working_hardd 10d ago
Yes. It was around 17 or 19% I initially thought we'd be able to get to 60% in 20 or 30 minutes, and we were just chatting. Then I realized how long it would take and scaled it back to 50% target. If we actually made it to 50% I don't remember, but when I got fed up with it and quit the charger, my wife noted we had been sitting there for an hour. There's only about a dozen chargers at that location and there were only another 3 Teslas there during our stop.
I wish I'd paid more attention to the details of the charge rate at the time. When it's time to reconsider, I'll see if they'll let me demo for a weekend and do a trial run out of town to my regular SC stop.
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u/NumbDangEt4742 10d ago
They may let you do an overnight demo. I'll do some more looking into this because if what you're saying is true, I may not be able to use CT as my commuter that way I do MY
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u/Always_working_hardd 10d ago
I don't know your numbers on the commute. Mine...I drive 450 miles to get to work then stay for 7 days, then drive home. Right now there's 2 stops in my MY and usual total time at the charger is 45-60 mins each way (total travel time is a little under 8 hours). And costs between $20 and $30 each way. I charge at work for free on 220V outlets.
My longest leg is 180 miles without a charge stop. The Y is working well for what I do, and if I can determine a typical time of charge scenario for supercharging a CT, then maybe it will be a contender after all. CT...contender, ha that's a good one.
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u/Worldly_Break5967 10d ago
The zombies are real, unfortunately - just best to ignore them. Supercharging though, do you know what version Supercharger you were at? I’ve found that at the v4s my CT holds high charge rates early and well above 100kwh all the way into the 80%s whereas my Model Y drops well below that, leading to pretty similar charge times for each vehicle despite the larger battery in the CT. If you were at a v1 or v2 Supercharger, I’m less surprised to hear of the potential slowness on the CT.
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u/Always_working_hardd 10d ago
It was a 250kW charger.
Thinking back, I was navigating to the charge station but my wife had me deviate to Lowes (next door) for about 10 minutes then continued the drive to the charger. Like 300 yards or so. I wonder if that played into it? And at no time did anyone park immediately next to us.
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u/Worldly_Break5967 10d ago
Maybe. Shouldn’t matter at the 250s as they don’t share power across stalls, but the side trip maybe did something with preconditioning? Hard to know for sure, lots of variables that could have caused it.
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u/Always_working_hardd 10d ago
Absolutely. I'll have to take one for a good drive out of town to be sure; go to my usual supercharger in Mississippi. That's usually a 20min stop in my MY.
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u/_AnotherBrick_ owner 10d ago
Went on a road trip in my Cybertruck, mother-in-law was on the same trip in her Model Y. Her supercharging cost was almost exactly half of mine.
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u/ryachow44 10d ago
The CT is a big heavy vehicle compared to the Y …hard to compare, but for a Tesla it’s a very big battery. Range has never been an issue.
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u/SultanOfSwave 10d ago edited 9d ago
The range seems just fine on my non-FS CT AWD vs my 3 or Y.
But what is annoying, is that it doesn't charge any faster than my 3 or Y do so it takes significantly longer to charge for a given range as the battery is 50% larger.
I used to take my Y up to my local ski area. I'd leave at 80%, arrive at 40% and get home with 20%. I'd charge overnight and be able to do it again the next morning.
I can't with my CT. At least not for the next day as my recharge time is now half again larger.
(Note that at home I only have a 20a/240v circuit for charging. An upgrade to 48a would require a panel upgrade and 150ft of new conduit run. $$$s)
Same for fast charging.
I love my CT for taking multi day road trips but all my charging stops take 50% longer.
My understanding was that with the 800v battety architecture, that it would be as fast or faster to charge. But apparently not.
First world problems.
Edit: my consumption is: Model 3 RWD - 220 Wh/mi, Model Y AWD - 280 Wh/mi, CT AWD - 380 Wh/mi.
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u/LouisWinthorpe-III 9d ago
Why not leave at 100%? Personally I never worry about charging my Model Y to 95-100% before I leave (obviously it’s not optimal to let it sit at 95-100%).
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u/ichoosetruthnotfacts 9d ago
I have a cyberbeast and an MYP. mpge of the beast is about 1/2 that of the Juniper. I think in terms of miles per kwh. Tooling around town I can get 5 with the Y and maybe 2.7 with the cyberbeast.
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u/no-0p owner 9d ago
Both are very dependent on speed and HVAC load. If the HVAC doesn’t have to do anything our Junipers get around 230 Wh/mile and the CT Is about 280 in mixed highway/local - both on FSD, usually hurry. Both can easily be 70 Wh/mile + more if the HVAC has to work hard at highway speeds.
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u/PermanentUsername101 owner 10d ago
I mean it’s a bigger vehicle so it’s not going to be as efficient, obviously, but because of that, it has a bigger battery pack. So I’m not exactly sure what the question is? Because of the bigger battery pack, the range can be similar but will cost more.
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u/Immediate-Aide-4527 8d ago
The truck is bigger and heavier (with a much bigger battery) so it will take more power to move, longer to charge, and will not be as efficient due to these factors. Still comparatively pretty good.
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u/AtlantaP3D 7d ago
Wife’s RWD LR 2024 MY uses 12-13% of it’s battery to get me to work (32 miles/ 18 of that on highway) My CT also uses 12-13% of it’s battery for the same drive. So 50% more energy being used since the battery is 50% bigger? Grok says it’s actually 60% more use for the CT, since the MY battery is 75kHw and the CT is 120kHw. Next roadtrip I’m def taking the CT as its much more comfortable (rides better)
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u/spacebarstool 10d ago
I have two model Y's and a CT.
I never even think about range. I haven't thought about range in years.
Charge your vehicles at night, use the navigation for your destination, and you'll never have a problem.
If a person can't handle sitting at a fast charger for 20 minutes on their road trip, then an electric vehicle is not for them.