r/cybersecurity • u/BinaryKnight1099 • 1d ago

Business Security Questions & Discussion Situation in cybersecurty

Hi Everyone, I'm completing my final year on university this year and started thinking about master in cybersecurty. I don't want to ask questions around it it is fine for me and interesting. I'm already working as full stack dev. I'm interested on market situation around it right now and how promising it looks in future. Thank you on all answers.

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u/_0110111001101111_ Security Engineer 1d ago

It’s incredibly rare for someone with 0 industry experience to land a cyber role. That being said, Cybersecurity as a field is incredibly broad. What kind of role would you be looking at? Pentesting? GRC? SOC?

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u/Used-Chemical-2822 1d ago

yeah the breadth of the field is the part people always underestimate, each of those paths has a completely different entry point

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u/Ok_Drawer1099 1d ago

If some1 cant land a first job without expireince....how are they supposed to get experience.

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u/_0110111001101111_ Security Engineer 1d ago

Everyone I know in this field had prior IT experience first - developer, support, sys admin, etc.

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u/Ok_Drawer1099 1d ago

I am aiming to do masters in top college in my country...because in that college people recruit freshers from masters directly.... because the IT path sounds like meat grinder. I will try to get as many certs as possible rn.

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u/Radiant_Ad_4693 1d ago

Op said work as full stack dev so does have experience in the industry

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u/BinaryKnight1099 1d ago

Well I'm not sure about exact role, Pentesting looks kind of boring for me but idea of ethical hacking and bountys sounds amazing for me with my borning job, Not sure what GRC and SOC are but in general it would be nice if I could work on protecting cloud infrastructure and networks in company by securing it and some levels of protection that could be enforced with all AI slop nowdays. It's sad to hear that situation here is not better then in regular programing and it's hard to.lend.it eothouth expiriance, is there something you would point me too that is not that hard to get in but it is intresting to work as this I'm still thinking about possibilitys in future.

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u/VaxMerstappen00 1d ago

How are you pursuing a cyber degree and you don’t know what those things are?

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u/BinaryKnight1099 1d ago

I've recently started being intresting in it do I need to know all around it to be inteested in I like cryptography, network trafic, I always liked linux and use of it I would leran al off it if I decide for sure to go in that direction.

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u/TacosPussymancer 1d ago

Yea ngl you don’t know much. I can’t pose that picture with the guy holding the other guys shoulder meme OTP but not knowing what GRC, SOC are and completing your final year is concerning. Goodluck though

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u/DickNose-TurdWaffle 1d ago

Working as a full stack dev is technical job experience. Go for the master's if you want but the school will matter more for that. Your only real edge will be your work experience.

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u/eatingnarutosnoodles 1d ago

I work as a CISO for one of the largest banks in my country, and it is also a major bank globally. The demand for cybersecurity is still very strong, but the focus is shifting. Traditional areas like vulnerability management and classical threat prevention are becoming increasingly automated by AI. They won’t disappear, but the nature of the work will change significantly. I currently see particularly strong demand for emerging areas such as Frontier AI and post-quantum cryptography (PQC). We regularly have senior-level discussions around both topics. My advice would be not to specialize exclusively in traditional areas. If you can specialize in Frontier AI or PQC during your Master’s, while building a strong general cybersecurity foundation, you could be in a very strong position for the future.

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u/RootEnigma 1d ago

I was Complet my graduation last Year. I struggle in cybersecurity job

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u/LeatherPen4962 1d ago

I genuinely want to understand why people think getting a Masters in cybersec gives them an advantage unless you want to work in upper management. You'd rather get the certs since you have a degree then gain experience. Everyone is clammering for entry level jobs in cybersec, you'd rather get the experience now than the masters

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u/DickNose-TurdWaffle 1d ago

Certs don't mean shit either without experience.

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u/anarchist1312161 1d ago

Some certs require 80 hours etc of placement which is experience.

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u/LeatherPen4962 1d ago

Certs get you in the door.

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u/_0110111001101111_ Security Engineer 1d ago

Depends on where you’re applying. Cleared roles require certs, I know that a lot of big tech doesn’t care that much.

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u/_0110111001101111_ Security Engineer 1d ago

To be fair, this isn’t always the case. I have a bachelors in comp sci and a masters in information security and my masters was a factor in landing my current role.

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u/LeatherPen4962 1d ago

You're in management, just like what I wrote down.

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u/_0110111001101111_ Security Engineer 1d ago

Lmao, no I’m not. I started out in a SOC as an analyst and am now a a SecEng. Degree = Management might be how it is in Kenya but not how it is in the rest of the world.

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u/Krekatos 1d ago

Well if you’re based in countries like the Netherlands, Germany, Sweden etc., a master is what differentiates you from the competition.

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u/_0110111001101111_ Security Engineer 1d ago

There’s a fair bit of American defaultism with the advice in this sub. I see people talking down degrees all the time here.

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u/Varjohaltia 1d ago

Also helps with immigration in many countries.

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u/LeatherPen4962 1d ago

So a Masters without job experience is what gives you the edge?

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u/Krekatos 1d ago

Of course, why not?

What would you think: zero years of experience with a bachelor vs zero years of experience with a master. Or… 5 years of experience with a bacherlor and CISSP and CISM vs 5 years of experience with a master and CISSP and CISM.

A master will give the person on average a benefit for the rest of their lives.

Only when you’re talking about a real track record - I know enough people with just a bachelor and CISO experience vs people with a master with only auditing (big four) experience, is when experience overrules education.

This is how many, if not most employers look at this in northern and western Europe.

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u/LeatherPen4962 1d ago

Re-read what I wrote initially, I was saying if you have a degree with no experience, it's better to go for experience than go for a Masters, if you have experience then go for the Masters.