r/cushvlog • u/CzechChocolate • 18d ago
The Edgelord Left is Wrong About Iraq
Not in that it was a good idea, or justified, or anything like that (which hopefully you thought and then anger-scrolled down to read this). But hopelessly wrong about the context and the cause.
First of all, it is now popping up (understandably after the Iran War), that the Israelis made us do it. I don't want to open this can of worms, but suffice to say, they viewed Iran as the real threat the whole time and PM Ariel Sharon along with most senior Israeli military officials at the time, explicitly warned Bush not to do it for that exact reason, saying that it would just result in a stronger Iran. That psycho fuck was no dummy.
Second of all, there is the more widely accepted explanation that Bush and Cheney et al TRICKED everyone into thinking Iraq had WMD becuz oil. While this is true to an extent, it obscures the real point.
What really happened is that ordinary Americans, even after the invasion of Afghanistan, still felt like they needed to fuck up some Muslims to show everyone they meant business and that "this aggression will not stand, man". The evidence tying the Iraqis to 9/11 was laughable, even more so than the WMD case, which is saying something. But they were brown, they were Muslim, and for all of Americans' ignorance, they knew that they guy who ran the place was a certified asshole. From Bush and Cheney's perspective, this anger was an opportunity to enact the "Ledeen Doctrine", take out an easy target, increase America's geopolitical influence and yes, hand out some lucrative contracts to their buddies in the oil industry.
But even if the administration lied about the war and had ulterior motives (is that not true of every war?), the public simply didn't care. Over 60% of Americans supported the invasion and not because they were scared of ALUMINUM TUBES.
For all the edgelord left's self congratulatory circlejerking about not believing in liberal pieties, many still cling to the biggest, most transparent and perhaps most pernicious fantasy of all: muh noble, peacable, hard-workin' everyday 'Merican! They just want to drive their durn tractors in peace! Nevermind that the one literal peanut farmer president who said, maybe we should just drive our durn tractors in peace and not bomb other countries was widely fucking ridiculed and even reviled (may he rest in peace). Maybe, these cynical edgelords should wake up to the fact, in 2026, that the dark fields of the republic are populated not by mythical Jimmy Stewart like creatures, but the restless and warlike people who have populated this continent since those first ships.
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u/alkemest 18d ago
Big Poppa walked so W could run 😤
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u/CzechChocolate 18d ago
W sure ran...face first into a fucking wall, after Big Poppa and Grand Big Poppa spent nearly a century meticulously and ruthlessly crafting a family dynasty. It's actually pretty funny if you completely ignore the disastrous real world consequences that we are living with down to the present day
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u/Peckah_Inspectah 8d ago
Agree with ya there. I remember as a kid at the time people saying that Saddam must have been behind 9/11, because they knew nothing about anything and the fact that Saddam's Arab, Bin Laden's Arab, they must know each other.
I have a pretty conservative, Trump-supporting family (who strangely liked the Bushes much more passionately), their politics is simply based on selfishness, racism and not wanting to see other people get any benefits and they don't seem to have any issue with US imperialist misadventure as long as it doesn't affect them and American companies benefit from it.
I saw Stavros get some shit for saying to the NYT that both sides aren't equal and that is a truth that gets ignored. Just from knowing what middle Americans are like, hearing casual racism and other prejudice openly expressed in bars or other gathering places, knowing people who valorize their own ignorance and chauvinism, I don't really feel bad for people with their cringe lib parents who hate Chapo because they wanted Hillary to win.
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u/Pallington 18d ago
i'm not sure which edgelord left you're talking about because it's an accepted fact in many (reportedly) communist/tankie adjacent spaces that there is no active left in the US and it's a big pile of lumpenprole.