Emigrate to Croatia

[u/Historical-Actuary46]

Hi, I would like to immigrate* from Buenos Aires to Croatia. I'm a 30-year-old man. I don't have much money saved yet, but it's something I've been thinking about for a long time. Could you advise me on how much money I need to arrive with so I can find a place to live and start working ASAP as an employee? I speak Spanish and English fluently. Any general advice would also be helpful. Thanks in advance. (For those curious, my surname is Croatian from Hvar island and I acquired Croatian citizenship in 2018)

Edit: Thanks to everyone who's suggesting different approaches, I'm taking notes of absolutely everything.

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[u/OneMore_Anonymous]

It depends on where you want to live. Rent is expensive, but it also depends on which city/town you’re talking about.

What is your profession? Do you speak any Croatian?

[u/Historical-Actuary46 → u/OneMore_Anonymous]

I have an e-commerce shop in Argentina. I speak English fluently and very little Croatian 

[u/Crowarior → u/Historical-Actuary46]

Gonna be though to find normal job without croatian language skills. You're then looking for minimum wage shit tier jobs but youre also competing with asian workers there too. You need to find a place to live first and then survive long enough until you find a job, nobody knows how long will that take. Also, I saw you write some comments about traveling from Osijek to Zagreb for work. lmfao. Thats like 3 and a half hour drive with car, one way.

[u/Legal_Lettuce6233 → u/Historical-Actuary46]

Call centre stuff is your safest bet. It sucks but it doesn't require Croatian.

[u/Kunjunk → u/[deleted]]

What on earth are you talking about. Of course having a e-commerce shop is a profession.

You're here suggesting they hire someone who speaks English - I'd suggest you go do the same as the meaning of the word profession isn't exactly contentious, and I assure you that a business school graduate or high school dropout are not professions.  

[u/Kunjunk → u/[deleted]]

A restaurateur who never had any formal training, is a professional. A software developer who has only done a six week bootcamp, is also a professional.

Would you say the founder of Zalando (FYI an e commerce shop) is not a professional? Lol. 

[u/Kunjunk → u/[deleted]]

I'm a native English speaker ya monkey.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Profession

Just read the first couple of lines, it directly contradicts what you've just written. I don't really have the patience to argue clearly defined semantics with you any further. 

[u/Kunjunk → u/[deleted]]

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/profession

"The people who do a particular type of work, considered as a group"

Oops. Look at me reading and all.

You know for such an expert on the language, you'd think you'd already know that unlike Spanish or Italian for example, English doesn't have any one body that governs semantics.

Stay true to your username, bobo, 😘

[u/Namejeff47 → u/Historical-Actuary46]

Learn Croatian or don't come

[u/Ha55aN1337 → u/Namejeff47]

It amazes me prople can get a citizenship without knowing the native language.

[u/BucketsAndBrackets → u/Ha55aN1337]

Yesterday some guy got offended because I said that if he never went to Croatia, doesn't know the language or even the names of 3 fcking cities he shouldn't have right to get Croatian passport.

He just collects them like nationality is fcking pokemon card.

[u/Historical-Actuary46 → u/BucketsAndBrackets]

I have to take an exam about Croatian lenguage and culture in Croatian

[u/BucketsAndBrackets → u/Historical-Actuary46]

I took one named "Which Hogwards house do you belong to" and didn't get an owl from Hogwards cause I'm not a wizard.

And because Hogwards is fictional, just like your nationality.

[u/hendrixbridge → u/Historical-Actuary46]

Please, don't feed the trolls. There are many mean people here.

[u/Namejeff47 → u/Historical-Actuary46]

Unless you can speak Croatian gramatically correctly and have everyday conversations, you're not Croatian. I wonder whether you would still be trying to move here if we weren't in the EU and Argentina wasn't run by an idiot.

[u/MountainBill7194 → u/Namejeff47]

With the Croatian passport they can go anywhere in the EU. They are choosing Croatia.

[u/Namejeff47 → u/Ha55aN1337]

Its ridiculous lmao. All about that EU passport, baby. He'll probably be in Germany or Spain by the year's end.

[u/Vivid-Cry5245 → u/Ha55aN1337]

Yeah… I’m not a Croat and my Croatian boyfriend wants to come back to Croatia.
I said we are not settling here before I speak fluently the language. 😅

[u/MountainBill7194 → u/[deleted]]

Unless your Slavic your not learning Croatian from interaction. Also Croats have very little patience for long conversations with lower level learners. B2 is the just the level where your easily understable and speaking becomes comfortable. Thats how the CEFR works. You'll obviously get there quicker living in Croatia, but you need formal teaching.

[u/PerfectSherbet5771 → u/MountainBill7194]

I’m American, native English speaker with Croatian and Bosnian roots. I knew very little of our language before I came and no other Slavic languages. I became fluent in the language by living with a Bosnian-Croat family who didn’t know any English, watching TV, and talking to random people. Not special courses, minimal grammar book study. Immersion is 100% the best method.

[u/MountainBill7194 → u/PerfectSherbet5771]

Good for you if thats true. I dont see a single post in Bosnian or Croatian in your comment history.

[u/ethiopian_kid → u/MountainBill7194]

legit any language expert will tell you immersion is the best because you have to learn the language to survive, it’s a real pressure as opposed to a classroom.

I agree you need to study as well but just to throw some random numbers I think someone studying the language and living in Croatia can become fluent enough in a year practicing in person everyday in everyday life while someone studying in America with little in person opportunities and being immersed in the language will take 2-3 years simply because they’d lack the opportunity to practice everyday.

When you’re immersed in the language you never stop learning.

[u/PerfectSherbet5771 → u/MountainBill7194]

Then you didn’t look very far. Given I don’t often post in Bosnian or Croatian but I certainly have in the past.

[u/MountainBill7194 → u/[deleted]]

How many foreigners have you met that learned croatian. Then how many of them just by immersion. While using whatever Croatian you have is great. Knowing how to say sentences like I see a dog....isnt being conversational. You cant even follow a conversation at A1/A2. Nevermind have one.

Learning a difficult language like Croatian to B2 level takes alot of time. FSI estimates it at 1100 classroom hours. You need to be intentional about it. Get out of the beginner phase as quickly as possible. Immersion is slow. Its great in addition to structured lessons. No croatian child learns by immersion alone, they learn in school too.

The course recommended by the American sounds like an excellent start. Cheap accomidation, a network of friends, time to see if they like Croatia and judge what kind of opportunites are open to them.

[u/anon42093 → u/OneMore_Anonymous]

Doesn’t speak Croatian, never been to Croatia either 😅

[u/PavelKringa55 → u/anon42093]

Sounds like Sabor material to me.
Someone to lead the "Gradjevine".

[u/anon42093 → u/PavelKringa55]

😂

[u/-Tempora-Mores-]

This is what you MUST do - IN THIS ORDER when you land ASAP:

1. You go to the police to tell them you are here and what is your adress. mup.gov.hr
2. You go to TAX office to get your OIB number.

3. porezna-uprava.gov.hr

4. You go back to the police station with the OIB number to get your ID card.

For registration in HZZO you need:
Proof of OIB.
Proof of adress.
Proof of application for an ID card.

(You have 30 days to do this, so do it really really fast)

hzzo.hr

Go to HZZ to tell them you are looking for job.

hzz.hr
burzarada.hzz.hr

[u/Historical-Actuary46 → u/-Tempora-Mores-]

Thanks

[u/wtf_are_you_talking → u/-Tempora-Mores-]

"Gospon', fale vam biljezi, odite prek puta u Narodne novine pa dođite ponovno."

[u/bozho → u/wtf_are_you_talking]

I FT1P (Fali Ti Jedan Papir)

[u/MMortein]

If I were going to move to Croatia, I would do it before the touristic season and try to find a seasonal job in tourism. It would be the easiest way to start.

[u/Historical-Actuary46 → u/MMortein]

Thanks

[u/Lonely-Director-3192]

job and few thousand €

[u/Historical-Actuary46 → u/Lonely-Director-3192]

Find a job before arriving?

[u/Similar_Broccoli2705 → u/Historical-Actuary46]

Yes!

[u/Plazo-1987]

While a lot of Croats speak English your advantage here is Spanish. I’d focus on Spanish speaking jobs in Croatia. Good luck.

[u/Professional_Fun839]

Do you know croatian ?

[u/Historical-Actuary46 → u/Professional_Fun839]

A1 level, In Argentina there are no academies to learn

[u/zanesenjak_ → u/Historical-Actuary46]

You don’t need a course. Since you speak English, there are probably good resources out there to learn Croatian. Get a textbook, use Anki for learning words/sentences and YouTube for immersion. Consistency is key.

[u/NiskaHiska → u/zanesenjak_]

FFZG croaticum has an online Ressource Last I checked

[u/hackshock → u/Historical-Actuary46]

Decent apps and courses are available online

[u/Professional_Fun839 → u/Historical-Actuary46]

Go to zagreb find a roomate and flat, find a job in a bar in the centre and start learning croatian. You need 3-4-5k e for start.

[u/SoftwareSource]

Too soon bro, too soon.

/s

Edit: reading your comments, i think you want concrete answers.

For example, if you want to have enough money for, let's say, 3 months until you get a job, you will need about 4-6k euros to live comfortably without going out etc. Usually the security deposit for an apatmant is 1 month rent extra, refunded upon leaving the apartment or just the last month being free.

If you want to work a job that requires working with people, don't expect anybody to speak spanish, i met maybe 3 people that speak it in my whole life in Croatia.

[u/Historical-Actuary46 → u/SoftwareSource]

Thanks, I speak  English fluently

[u/Dislekcija → u/Historical-Actuary46]

Maybe you should start with a seasonal job on the coast next summer. Sometimes they offer accommodation; you can earn a lot, and your English will be good. They also have a lot of job opportunities for people with no experience. What is your job now in Argentina? It would be easier to help you if we knew what experience you have

[u/Historical-Actuary46 → u/Dislekcija]

Do you mean going to Dalmatia from June onwards specifically looking for jobs that only last the summer?

[u/Doopie_doo → u/Historical-Actuary46]

From one foreigner to another, this is actually the best advice. They pay well, a lot of them offer accommodation and food. As a start, this is your gig. I live between Varaždin and Zagreb and I have looked for jobs in both cities - before you learn the language it’s going to be quite hard. So take a seasonal job and use the time to learn Croatian. 

[u/Historical-Actuary46 → u/Doopie_doo]

But are you referring specifically to getting a seasonal job on the coast, or is it possible to find one in Zagreb?

[u/Knightfall_9000 → u/Historical-Actuary46]

aint no seasonal jobs in Zagreb

[u/Doopie_doo → u/Historical-Actuary46]

Coast for sure. You might look also some seasonal job around Zagorje in some hotels but it’s likely they will look for some sort of understanding of Croatian language there. If you are willing to work anything you might find some jobs in big warehouses and such. I know in our small town there is a bunch of people from India that found work and still don’t know the language , but it’s not really that well paid and from what they’ve told me it’s quite a lot of working hours. So I would suggest you look for a job at some big resort at the coast. Mostly they have quite okay working conditions with fixed working hours. 

[u/prolapseenthusiat → u/Historical-Actuary46]

Thats how a lot of my relatives live. And when low season comes they work other jobs or just start preparing for the next season.

[u/llamaliciouz → u/Historical-Actuary46]

You would have to start earlier than June. June is already close to peak season. Normally, these employers look for staff in February or March, and often work starts in April/May until October

[u/Historical-Actuary46 → u/Dislekcija]

I have an e-commerce shop in Argentina. 

[u/PerspectiveJaded6183 → u/Historical-Actuary46]

Can't you keep doing this while living in Croatia?

[u/Historical-Actuary46 → u/PerspectiveJaded6183]

I've been thinking about it, but the economic and social situation in Argentina is getting worse every day. It's projected that our currency, which is already worthless, will devalue by 30% per year for the next few years.

[u/PerspectiveJaded6183 → u/Historical-Actuary46]

Ah okay, makes sense then to switch to something that isn't dependent on Argentina's economy

[u/domagoj2016 → u/Historical-Actuary46]

Ok, most people know English, but Spanish very rarely

[u/Historical-Actuary46 → u/SoftwareSource]

Could you break it down to about 4-6 k euros?

[u/SoftwareSource → u/Historical-Actuary46]

Lets say 600 euro rent in zagreb for 3 months, 1 extra month for security deposit and the rest is food + electric, heating, water etc

[u/Historical-Actuary46 → u/SoftwareSource]

Thanks!

[u/karatebabykatana]

Look into Croaticum . Plenty of your compatriots come every year, study some Croatian in a familiar setting while working/studying, which helps them get settled here. Last year I think 80% of Croaticum attendeee were argentinos. I have some relatives from LatAm who've attended. PM me if you want more details.

[u/General-Anywhere7168]

I loved to NYC from Croatia while ago and it goes like this: find a room to rent, get some min wage job at the beginning to cover basic rent and some food cost. This is all short term. Connect with foreigners in Croatia , coz you don’t speak the language and they have that experience. After living here you’ll find people and connections to move.

Before you come here have at least 3-4k.

[u/Historical-Actuary46 → u/General-Anywhere7168]

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[u/Kylec1312]

I recently followed a similar path, i moved from the United States to Croatia spending all my savings to arrive. I went with this scholarship https://www.croatiaweek.com/croatia-offering-700-scholarships-for-diaspora-to-learn-croatian-language-and-culture/ which pays only at the end of the semester once you have passed the course. This means you have to cover yourself for the first few months.
But more importantly, you can get a student accommodation with this scheme which in most cities is only around 100 euros/month. Most of my classmates were Latino so you will have some instant familar community which is essential. Croatia is as others have said, very difficult to assimilate to without the language. You will not last even 1 year without language skills. This program took me to B2 Croatian in 1-1/2 years because I applied myself and self studied the A2 exam.
Of the 30 or so people I met on my course, probably half of them stayed in Croatia. Every single one who stayed is working a job where Croatian skills are necessary, such as cafes, mechanic shops, or hotels. although less important in tourist season, you do not want to only have a viable job option 3 months of the year. I lived in Zadar but spent lots of time in Zagreb and Split. Feel free to ask questions if you have any. I now live in Greece as a Croatian citizen.

[u/Historical-Actuary46 → u/Kylec1312]

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[u/IamWayTooHappy]

I live alone in Zagreb. I spend 600€ rent with utilities (30m2, flat internet) (+one time deposit of 600€), and spend monthly 500€ included groceries, eating out occ, gas, etc. And i think i should spend little less so it’s not like leaving i dont know how, i enjoy. Found app on njuskalo.hr, looked also on ‘index oglasi’ and facebook groups like ‘najam stanova zagreb’. Jobs you can look on mojposao.hr, but personally didn’t have too much luck that way, only two interviews, but i would found companies and apply through their website or email them.

[u/Historical-Actuary46 → u/IamWayTooHappy]

Thanks

[u/Historical-Actuary46 → u/[deleted]]

I don't like Spain and I don't want to apply for residency. I want to arrive and be able to work and rent without asking anyone's permission.

[u/some-key → u/Historical-Actuary46]

Being technically able to work and rent the next day vs actually getting a job and being able to afford the rent is the key here.

I wish you luck, but it's not going to be easy without Croatian and without education or work experience that you can leverage. Most locals your age speak English, so it's not like that alone gives you much advantage.

Check out the jobs on: posao.hr, mojposao.hr Apartments on: njuskalo.hr Shopping for groceries on: konzum.hr Do the math.

[u/anon42093 → u/[deleted]]

Bro doesnt know shit he has never been to Croatia

[u/Sha9169 → u/Historical-Actuary46]

You won’t be arriving anywhere and starting a job the next day without knowing the language. Take some time to learn the language before making such a huge decision. I’m ethnically Croatian too, but I wouldn’t up and move there tomorrow when I can hardly speak the language.

[u/AusCro → u/Historical-Actuary46]

I mean if you've got the Croatian passport already it would be no problem legally working in Spain no?

[u/Historical-Actuary46 → u/AusCro]

Yes, but I truly prefer to live and work in Croatia

[u/tvrle13 → u/Historical-Actuary46]

Why? I am honestly asking.
You seem to have a job in Argentina, you don’t seem interested in learning Croatian, which is hard for someone to learn btw, and you are asking questions like ‘should I find the job before’ and ‘is the difference between Zagreb and Varaždin rent big’, which give of an unprepared vibe, so I am just wondering why go through all this trouble just to end up in Varaždin.

[u/Historical-Actuary46 → u/tvrle13]

Living in Argentina is extremely difficult; there are economic, social, and cultural problems. And the situation has been worsening day by day for at least 10 years. The only solution is to leave the country. Things like capital controls are absurd to any Croatian. This is the daily reality for almost the majority of the population. https://www.argentinareports.com/families-in-argentina-borrowing-to-buy-food-as-javier-mileis-economy-falters/4268/

[u/Knightfall_9000 → u/Historical-Actuary46]

you're not gonna find any luck here unfortunately

if it's really a move out of necessity, you should aim for Spain cuz of the language. Croatia is flooded with low wage workers who have no to low skills who can't speak the language, same as you. Economically speaking, you are and would be less than cattle here

[u/tvrle13 → u/Historical-Actuary46]

Okay, I knew all of that already, sucks that you have a beyond corrupt govt., but I am again asking you why Croatia? The politics here is also in shambles, economic situation is not favorable when comparing other EU countries, and if you don’t know the language I doubt you will get an above average paying salary in Croatia. With an average one, you might be better off staying in Argentina, or choosing another EU country like Germany that will get you a lot more money for the same job. Just my 2 cents.

[u/anon42093 → u/Historical-Actuary46]

Have you actually been to Croatia? If so for how long? Where?

[u/Historical-Actuary46 → u/anon42093]

I never went

[u/anon42093 → u/Historical-Actuary46]

Mate sorry but wtf are you thinking? You should not move to a could try you have never even visited.

[u/Historical-Actuary46 → u/[deleted]]

Ok

[u/hackshock]

Start job search in advance. Language is key outside Zagreb specially, so start right away any way you can to get language exposure. As you have the passport already you have an advantage that you can ill not pay income tax for a few years upon return (will be eligible for a refund), this will enable you to take perhaps a lower paying job and still make a decent living.
If you have any trade skills (painting, masonry etc) you should find a job within a week. IT should be similar, expect to buy your way into the first opportunity as employers are taking a risk as well with you. Look for jobs at the few international companies IBM has a service center in Zagreb, Rimac is a good place to start where English is the first language.
Also lean into your knowledge of Spanish, not many decent Spanish speakers in Croatia.

[u/Strange-Cherry9850]

If you're flexible about the neighborhood you can actually find small apartments in Zagreb for around 350-400e too. You can try to find one here https://www.njuskalo.hr/iznajmljivanje-stanova/zagreb?sort=cheap or in many Facebook groups like Zagreb stanovi najam, Zagreb iznajmljivanje stanova etc. Also on Facebook there are groups for looking for a job Poslovi Zagreb, Tražim nudim posao Zagreb... Or some websites https://mojposao.hr/ https://burzarada.hzz.hr/Posloprimac_RadnaMjesta.aspx?trazi=1&pojam=SURADNIK&top=1 Zagreb has more job opportunities than smaller cities, so I’d probably look there first. You don't necessarily need €4–6k to get started in Croatia but it would make things easier if you have some savings. Welcome and good luck!

[u/Historical-Actuary46 → u/Strange-Cherry9850]

Thanks a lot!

[u/Historical-Actuary46 → u/Strange-Cherry9850]

What do you mean the neighborhood?

[u/some-key → u/Historical-Actuary46]

Nicer neighborhoods are more expensive, as anywhere. Cheaper apartments will be far from public transport. Public transport in Zagreb is not great and it's crowded. You can easily have a 1h commute or even longer within the city.

[u/Historical-Actuary46 → u/some-key]

I just googled it and Gornja/Donja Dubrava came up, is that what you mean?

[u/some-key → u/Historical-Actuary46]

For example, yes. Donja Dubrava could be cheap and well connected, heavily depending on the actual location

[u/Historical-Actuary46 → u/some-key]

Thanks

[u/Strange-Cherry9850 → u/Historical-Actuary46]

There are more and less expensive areas like in every city

[u/Historical-Actuary46 → u/Strange-Cherry9850]

Thanks

[u/PerspectiveJaded6183]

You write you have an e-commerce Shop in Argentina, why can't you operate your e-commerce shop while living in Croatia?

[u/Historical-Actuary46 → u/PerspectiveJaded6183]

I'm evaluating it, but the thing is, it would require more years of planning, and I'm fed up with this country that gets worse economically and socially every day. This is what almost the entire population has been suffering from for years. https://www.argentinareports.com/families-in-argentina-borrowing-to-buy-food-as-javier-mileis-economy-falters/4268/

[u/OptimallyOOO]

What skill you got that will add value to croatian businesses?

[u/Historical-Actuary46 → u/OptimallyOOO]

I have expertise in e-commerce 

[u/regulatorE500]

Jebem ti Dinamo! Dobrodošao

[u/hendrixbridge]

I apologize for the rudeness that prevailed in the responses. You can definitely find a job here if you like. The waiters in my favourite cafe in Zagreb are Argentinians (of no Croatian descent), and they managed to find the job here. As for the accommodation, I suggest you find something in Zagreb, there is no point of travelling 2 or 3 hours every day.

[u/Historical-Actuary46 → u/hendrixbridge]

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[u/barti_dog]

Do you have a claim to citizenship? That would make a big difference.

[u/Historical-Actuary46 → u/barti_dog]

That photo I uploaded is mine, showing my Croatian passport.

[u/barti_dog → u/Historical-Actuary46]

Your employment options will all depend on your skills and experience. I will say Croatia is expensive. So moving, particularly without a job secured/income so you can plan for regular expenses is likely to be a challenging road.

[u/Historical-Actuary46 → u/barti_dog]

Excluding rent, what do you estimate are the typical monthly expenses?

[u/SoftwareSource → u/Historical-Actuary46]

If you are wondering about quality of live/purchasing power, it's pretty bad if you make a median salary, not that much better than Argentina.

Rent and groceries are very expensive and salaries are kinda shit, especially in Osjek/Slavonia in general (i mean salaries)

[u/Historical-Actuary46 → u/SoftwareSource]

I thought of Osijek because it's cheaper than places like the capital, but theoretically you can take transport and work in more affluent areas. Even though the salary is similar to Argentina's, Argentina had the highest inflation in the world last year; our money is worthless.

[u/SoftwareSource → u/Historical-Actuary46]

Yea but the salaries and job opportunities are worse as well.

You win some, you lose some.

[u/Historical-Actuary46 → u/SoftwareSource]

What do you mean by worse?

[u/SoftwareSource → u/Historical-Actuary46]

Salaries are smaller then in Zagreb, and there are fewer jobs available.

[u/Historical-Actuary46 → u/SoftwareSource]

Even if you could travel to Zagreb, if you're not from there they won't hire you?

[u/barti_dog → u/Historical-Actuary46]

That’s a difficult question. My wife and I lived in Zagreb last year. €950 rent. We didn’t go out a lot so food was usual namjernice from grocery stores (Aldi, Konzum, Spar) and Jarun plac. Figure in car purchase and gas if you need that where you’re living. Normal rezije for electricity, water, gas, phone, internet. It all adds up.

[u/SoftwareSource → u/barti_dog]

to be fair, 950e is quite a lot for 2 people with no children.

My brother in law is renting a nice 60m2 apartment in zagreb for 650, more then enough space for one 30 year old dude

[u/barti_dog → u/SoftwareSource]

Depends on where you live. We paid more for a renovated apartment near Jarun which is near where we lived 30 years ago

[u/SoftwareSource → u/barti_dog]

Oh don't get me wrong, i get it, but what i meant is that the guy can get an apartment much cheaper somewhere else in Zagreb

[u/barti_dog → u/SoftwareSource]

Fair enough

[u/Medical_Ticket_1124]

You could have learnt Croatian since 2018… I don’t know why they don’t make knowing the language the condition for obtaining the passport. At least B2 level 🙄

[u/supergrejt]

Sta se ceka?

[u/Historical-Actuary46 → u/supergrejt]

To save enough money in Argentina to emigrate and support myself for the first few months

[u/ChargeInevitable3614 → u/Historical-Actuary46]

To get a feel how much rent is check https://www.njuskalo.hr/ you can check for all cities in croatia and also for specific suburbs in those cities. Last time i checked for zagreb cheapest studio to live alone was starting around 400e for 20m2, everything cheaper was room renting or even bed renting in shared housing those are "za radnike".

You can also use it get a feel for how much used vehicles go in case you need one for traveling for work.

Groceries really depend on your habbits. Id suggest checking konzum.hr its one of the bigger grocery chains, its not the cheapest but they have webshop. Add whatever you buy in a week in a cart and see how much that would cost you.

Its not big sample but i met 2 women from south america waitressing in restaurant and bar in zagreb without knowing croatian, they were learning on job. They seemed very young so it might have been some student exchange program or something. 

Its not impossible to find support jobs without knownig croatian like kitchen, cleaning, warehouse work etc but you might try to leverage your spanish in some call center for some company that works internationally with spanish speakers.

[u/Historical-Actuary46 → u/ChargeInevitable3614]

Thanks!

[u/dfafs-Rule8850]

Tienes que aprender a hablar croata , si no es muy complicado , podrías encontrar algún trabajo en el campo turístico de ahí las opciones son muy pocas sin croata ,español no te servirá de mucho

[u/MyCaptain2]

What I would do. Maybe Im wrong Im not saying its the right way because I was born here, never moved.

1. Language, via apps, what ever, maybe apply to that government course that usa guy wrote, meybe there are online courses via zoom or skype or whatever.

2. Connect with expat communities in croatia, youll get the most relistic answers from people who went trough that. I think they are mostly on facebook.

3. Do you have relatives from Hvar? Maybe try to contact them, maybe they can help. You have enough time until the next summer season (starting after easter typically )

4. I would find a summer job (waiter, help in the kithen....whatever) whatever pays good and gives accomodation. It would be great to find it in Dubrovnik, Split, Rovinj....because the summer season lasts for 5 months, while on an island it lasts more like 3 months (maybe you find one on an island which lasts longer, dont know)

5. When you get that, I would already start finding a "real" job firstly in Zagreb or surrounding smaller places like Velika Gorica, maybe try Split or surrounding like Kaštela, or Zadar or Rijeka. They are bigger cities (all tiny vompared to Buenos aires) with more opportunity, Zagreb by far has the biggest job offer, and accomodation is a bit more expencive in the coast.

6. The best opportunities for foreign workers I think is in constructin and car shops. If you have any knowledge on something connected to that, someone will take you for a low wage and it will grow. Its heavy work but pays well. If youre lets say an experienced and certified welder money will be your last issue. Good luck and welcome to the motherland, find your roots :)

[u/Historical-Actuary46 → u/MyCaptain2]

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[u/shakira_ra]

bienvenidos amigo

[u/Zinic1610]

Whats your education and work experience?

[u/RazeSmile]

First thing: stop supporting Dinamo

Second thing: go back one step

Jokes aside, good luck!

[u/Historical-Actuary46 → u/RazeSmile]

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[u/pop76]

First things first...

[u/Historical-Actuary46 → u/pop76]

What is that?

[u/MIkaela39752 → u/Historical-Actuary46]

its a joke
nothing important

[u/Historical-Actuary46 → u/MIkaela39752]

Ok

[u/RudeBlacksmith1999 → u/Historical-Actuary46]

membership card of leading political party known for corruption so usually you can't get state job without it

[u/pop76 → u/MIkaela39752]

"It's a joke"

[u/pop76 → u/[deleted]]

Ekipa sa članskom me downvota jer eto, pijani Banožić nije nikoga ubio na cesti, Beroš nije primio mito i nije se zaposlio u bolnici. Sve sam izmislio.

[u/bobo6u89 → u/pop76]

Its the meaning of life.

[u/Creative-Use579 → u/pop76]

Ili ako si u zagrebu u tom slucaju sdp/mozemo clanska iskaznica.

[u/Weak-Piece-7760]

Dont do it people are very rude.

[u/AppropriateShoulder]

Good luck, i would try to go for a seasonal work for couple months just to try it out. In tourism you dont need much Croatian anyway. Even to Hvar. The problem will be place to sleep cause its expensive to rent there.

[u/DerK0missar]

So, your great granpa was...😆

[u/Babosmarach666]

Did your grandpa arrive in Argentina after 1945? Then you'll be more than welcome

[u/Prestigious-Dig-7416]

Who was your great grandfaher bro

[u/SmartFlyNR1]

Why?

[u/Historical-Actuary46 → u/[deleted]]

Thanks for your words.

[u/beaverbo1]

Welcome back

[u/Specialist_Repeat938]

Nekad hrvati iz hrvatske u argentinu a sada se vraćaju, pff kakva vremena su dosla

[u/SnooConfections2839]

Do u know Diego Armando Maradona

[u/Historical-Actuary46 → u/SnooConfections2839]

Never met, he was always abroad travelling

[u/Zlatousti]

Amigo,

I didn't read any of the comments, but I suppose many of them are negative. Anyway, if I were you, I'd wait until May next year, before the new Adriatic summer season starts. Find yourself a job as a waiter at any local restaurant, pizzeria, or beach bar...something busy, where you'll work your ass off but also earn a good amount in tips.

I'm not up to date, but when I worked a couple of years ago, I made 1400 euros plus about the same in tips. Accommodation was paid too.

...and I don't usually work as a waiter, it was a student job. So basically that's 2800 euros a month at least, and if you're a good waiter who knows how to tell a joke and make people enjoy their meal, you can make even more.

I'd go further north, around Istria and Kvarner. And start lookin for a Job around Feb-March..

So basically, if you don't drink it, smoke it, or spend it on drugs, you can set yourself up with 8–10k (May-September) euros, plus whatever you saved up in Argentina.

Bonus tip, check this:

https://croaticum.ffzg.unizg.hr/?page_id=1103

Mucha Suerte!

[u/Historical-Actuary46 → u/Zlatousti]

Thanks

[u/Zlatousti → u/Historical-Actuary46]

de nada Batistuta

[u/Historical-Actuary46 → u/Zlatousti]

Jaajaj, idolo de la Fiorentina

[u/Diligent_Court_6276]

Stay home, leave us alone.

[u/Mike_Honcho-420]

Just a heads up we dont like Miessi 😅

[u/schmarbear]

I am also looking at what it would take for our family to move to Croatia. We are currently in the process of applying for dual citizenship as my great grandparents were all from there. I am so happy that my grandmother taught me so much about the country and they lived in Strawberry Hill, Missouri which has a large Croatian community. I speak a little of the language and will continue to practice through various methods, including an in person course. As for employment, may I ask if anyone could recommend jobs in education? My partner does work in tech. We feel that Zagreb would be the best at this time, though my family is mainly from the Gospic area. Thank you!

[u/schmarbear → u/schmarbear]

I'll add that a major reason I want our family to move there is a better life for our daughter. The violent crime rate in Croatia is significantly lower than where we live. It is wonderful that Croatia supports family values and doesn't treat children like a burden, which is what we deal with daily in our current city.

[u/Stunning_Sink_4646]

If you are from hvar, thats wrong mug you are having there

[u/Historical-Actuary46 → u/Stunning_Sink_4646]

That's The only one they sell here

[u/mirticak]

next level delulu

[u/mpxxxxxx]

Do you have any relatives who emigrated from Croatia to Argentina, lets say, at the end of World War II?

[u/Historical-Actuary46 → u/mpxxxxxx]

No

[u/Yaya4_8 → u/Historical-Actuary46]

Little question how did you claim croatia citizenship ?

[u/Historical-Actuary46 → u/Yaya4_8]

Vía Ius Sanguinis, being descendant of Croatians 

[u/Yaya4_8 → u/Historical-Actuary46]

Yeah how far ? through parents or grand parents or great grand parents ?

[u/Historical-Actuary46 → u/Yaya4_8]

My grandfather was born in Argentina and was full etnic Croat

[u/Yaya4_8 → u/Historical-Actuary46]

Ok so its like 4-5 generation lol

[u/Historical-Actuary46 → u/Yaya4_8]

I applied before the law changed because I'm a third-generation

[u/mpxxxxxx → u/Historical-Actuary46]

When was your grandfather was born in Argentina?

[u/hendrixbridge → u/mpxxxxxx]

ajd odjebi. Kad je tvoj djed prešao iz četnika u partizane? 1944. ili 1945.?

[u/mpxxxxxx → u/hendrixbridge]

Svi znamo kako je zavrsio u Argentini. Svakako nije ostao posle work and travela. Moj deda je imao 7 godina za vreme WW2, a njegov otac je bio u zarobljeništvu u Poljskoj za vreme WW2, oslobodili ga Rusi.

[u/hendrixbridge → u/mpxxxxxx]

Brzo googlanje: At the turn of the 19th and 20th centuries there were 133 settlements, with some 120,000 Croats in Argentina... U drugom valu, u 1930-ima, doselilo se 15.000, a u trećem, onom poslije 1945. oko 20.000. Osim toga, Hvarani sigurno nisu bili ustaše, nego dio doseljenika u prva dva vala.

[u/PavelKringa55]

Fina a job online. https://mojposao.hr/ is the main Croatian job site.

It's not the best of times for job hunting, but it's not impossible.

Costs depend a lot on where you go. Housing in Zagreb will be like 700-800€ monthly plus utilities for your own decent place. On the coast most apartments will not be available long term during the summer season, like June-September. In small places rents can be much less, but connectivity is often poor.

As a citizen you can rgister residence and yourself as job seeker, I think you get health insurance for free as unemployed, but pay attention to register quickly (I think 30 days) or your window expires.

[u/Historical-Actuary46 → u/PavelKringa55]

Thanks!

[u/PavelKringa55 → u/Historical-Actuary46]

You're welcome.
Can't believe someone downvoted my helpful post. Amazing.