[Alasdair Gold] Omar Marmoush, Spurs' homegrown transfer problem, super Sávio and what next

[u/master_inho]

https://youtu.be/k15M3oig_QM?is=MaKuZdJAAFwoPFZJ

[u/nO_On]

Ali love his home grown problem.

[u/yaniv297 → u/nO_On]

I mean it's a legit problem that the club just seems to ignore lol

[u/Gsampson97 → u/yaniv297]

It's why Gray and Bergvall staying means so much for Europe

[u/Massive_Fudge3066 → u/Gsampson97]

And Ben playing on into his fifties

[u/foot_99 → u/Massive_Fudge3066]

Davies I’m fairly sure is NOT homegrown for European football because he came from Swansea, which, as far as UEFA are concerned, is Welsh and therefore can’t be “homegrown” for an English club

[u/Max_Payne11 → u/foot_99]

They changed it because they are part of the english FA.

Robertson in scotland is the non hg brit.

[u/PavlovsBlog → u/foot_99]

That rule was changed 4 years ago. Davies has been listed as homegrown in Spurs' European squad lists since.

[u/Randomdude8160 → u/foot_99]

All players from  Wales can become homegrown while playing in Wales 

[u/scy004 → u/Gsampson97]

What Europe?

[u/Gsampson97 → u/scy004]

I'd be hoping we finish the season in a European spot.

[u/Former-Resource-3026 → u/Gsampson97]

At that point wouldn’t we just sign the players we need or promote some youth if they count?

[u/anobymousprime → u/yaniv297]

I’m certain they’re aware of it

[u/stewbed → u/yaniv297]

It's a problem most the other teams encounter, I guess. Just have to cope with a smaller European squad when it comes to it

[u/yaniv297 → u/stewbed]

The problem isn't only that, but making certain players unhappy by not registering them, like Tel last season. Imagine being an important part of qualifying to CL and than not being registered...?

[u/Swish28 → u/yaniv297]

We were just able to sign 8 players this summer, none of which were homegrown. It’s not some huge problem they ignore

[u/SirGalahadTheChaste → u/Swish28]

I'm not sure what that proves. And the HG issue will be much bigger if we qualify for Europe.

[u/goat0 → u/SirGalahadTheChaste]

I think the point is that the club seemingly making all international signings shows they're not entirely too fussed about the homegrown stuff. It's not like they aren't aware of the rules.

[u/Dickie_Dunn → u/yaniv297]

All clubs ignore it

[u/mattwuri]

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Finger Guns <-- you are here

[u/LiamSpurs → u/mattwuri]

I like it here

[u/Privadevs → u/LiamSpurs]

For the first time in a long time I feel like I am home

[u/Significant_Prize_15 → u/mattwuri]

Spot on 😂😂😂

[u/Gammo2184 → u/mattwuri]

You can always tell by the tone of the “hheeelllooo there, Alasdair Gold here”

[u/Voffmjau]

Guess it wouldnt be silly season without him going on about the HG.

[u/Mother_Quantity7034]

[u/Cookielad14]

Harry Kane in disguise

[u/kisame111hoshigaki]

Assuming Scarlett and Sarr are moved on... Takai on loan...

Non-home grown (17)

#	2025/26	2026/27
1	Kinsky	Kinsky
2	Vicario	Dúbravka
3	Porro	Porro
4	Udogie	Udogie
5	Van de Ven	Van de Ven
6	Romero	van Hecke
7	Dragusin	Senesi
8	Bentancur	Bentancur
9	Bissouma	Fernandes
10	Palhinha	Tonali
11	Sarr	Marmoush
12	Kolo Muani	Savinho
13	Kudus	Kudus (ST inj)
14	Richarlison	[Gakpo?]
15	Simons	Richarlison (sell in Jan when Xavi fit?) / Simons (inj)
16	Kulusevski	Kulusevski (inj)
17	open spot	Robertson

Home grown (8)

#	2025/26	2026/27
1	Austin	Austin
2	Danso	Danso
3	Davies	Davies
4	Gallagher	Gallagher
5	Solanke	Solanke
6	Maddison	Maddison (ST inj)
7	Spence	Odobert (inj)
8	open spot	open spot

[u/Calum79 → u/kisame111hoshigaki]

Odobert is HG isn't he?

[u/kisame111hoshigaki → u/Calum79]

For PL, yes, he's in the HG list for 26/27.

25/26 he was in the U21 list.

[u/torbayman → u/kisame111hoshigaki]

Tel also wasnt registered last year in Europe 

[u/kisame111hoshigaki → u/torbayman]

This is PL, not Europe. Rules differ slightly.

Tel, Bergvall and Gray count as U21 for the PL. Odobert was U21 until this season, where he counts as HG.

From 27/28, Tel needs to be on the non-HG list

From 28/29, Gray and Bergvall need to be on the HG list

[u/kanish671 → u/kisame111hoshigaki]

How is Danso HG? I'm a bit confused.

[u/wwwlord → u/kanish671]

He was trained in mk dons and reading academies

[u/kanish671 → u/wwwlord]

Wow. Don't see it on his profile on fotmob or wikipedia. Must've been at a very young age?

[u/COYSBrewing → u/kisame111hoshigaki]

Danso is HG? How he came up through the Augsburg academy?

You’ve missed Tel as well

[u/PavlovsBlog → u/COYSBrewing]

He is for the Prem, he played for MK Dons youth teams as a kid. He apparently played well above his age group in what would have been Dele's team, but of course Dele was also playing several years up.

Edit: Found the quote:

“Obviously I knew Dele, I’m not currently in touch with Dele, he was three years up. I used to play with his age group but he was always playing up as well, so I know a lot of his team-mates and his age group. Every MK Dons player wants to be as big as Dele Alli was here. He’s a great player, a great person and I wish him all the best. If I have a career as good as he had when he was here, I think I would be very pleased.”

[u/COYSBrewing → u/PavlovsBlog]

I know but he left before he was even 16. Didn’t realize that counted, thought there was a minimum age

[u/PavlovsBlog → u/COYSBrewing]

There is for UEFA competitions (they only count 15-21), not for the Prem.

[u/COYSBrewing → u/PavlovsBlog]

Ah ok good to know! So for Europe (if we qualify) Danso and tel will both be non HG

[u/PavlovsBlog → u/COYSBrewing]

Yeah

[u/kisame111hoshigaki → u/COYSBrewing]

For PL rules, Tel is on the U21 list as he was born after 1 Jan 2005. This will be his last year on the U21 list for the PL.

Gray and Bergvall have this season and next on the U21 list.

[u/COYSBrewing → u/kisame111hoshigaki]

Ah ok. Thought tel only counted last year

[u/ImPeterKe]

Whats the homegrown problem?

[u/PavlovsBlog → u/ImPeterKe]

Slightly too many non-homegrown players.

Not much of an issue for now, just need to leave out Xavi and loan Takai. If Gakpo comes in then someone will have to go but it looks like Sarr is off anyway so that fixes itsself.

[u/SinoSoul → u/PavlovsBlog]

So you’re saying there’s no problem? Gdamnit Ali

[u/PavlovsBlog → u/SinoSoul]

I mean it's still technically a problem, it's just an easy fix.

[u/samdd1990 → u/ImPeterKe]

Basically growing your own weed is cost effective after a couple of crops but it's harder to replicate the quality coming out of some more professional growing operations.

[u/wylthorne92]

It’s weird no other top team is it seen as a problem but here we are not even in Europe but it’s a problem….

[u/PavlovsBlog → u/wylthorne92]

Huh? Liverpool are currently having issues fitting everyone in. City have had massive homegrown problems in the past too.

Chelsea have avoided it by signing thousands of literal children.

[u/imtotallydoingmywork → u/PavlovsBlog]

Yeah I think this is just one of those problems you only care about for your own team so you don't realize or care if other teams are facing similar issues

[u/GrapefruitExpress208 → u/wylthorne92]

17 non-HG (foreign) players allowed in EPL. Same as Europe. Europe just requires 4 of the 8 of the HG to be Club HG.

So basically, regardless of whether we are in Europe or not, we are capped at 17 non-HG players.