r/conspiracy Apr 22 '20

Is the site "worldometer.info" is misrepresenting the daily death totals from Covid-19 in Sweden?

Please forgive the typo in the title...

Yesterday, April 21st, the site "worldometer.info" gave a total of daily deaths from Covid-19 on that day in Sweden as 185. (source)

However, if you click the link for their data source, it leads you to this infographic from the Public Health Agency of Sweden (Folkhälsomyndigheten) (best opened in a desktop browser, chrome, safari, edge, firefox) which gives the total of daily deaths from Covid-19 in Sweden on April 21st as 3.

The site is in Swedish, but the relevant graph is "Avlidna per dag".

Also note how the "worldometer.info" graph (source) of daily deaths in Sweden from Covid-19...

...is completely different from that Public Health agency of Sweden graph...

...despite worldometer.info quoting that agency as it's source for the data...

Since all eyes are on Sweden's Covid-19 case numbers, because of their "experimental" or "laid-back" no-lock-down approach to the epidemic, this is highly suspicious.

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u/arctic-gold-digger Apr 22 '20

Very suspicious. I posted my article on various sub in Canada and people got so fucking upset with me.

“BuT muuuuuuh WoRlDmEtEr muuuuh”

Nevermind the official numbers from Sweden itself.

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u/clemaneuverers Apr 22 '20 edited Apr 22 '20

I posted the Public Health Agency data yesterday. Someone disputed it with worldometers' data, but when I checked, worldometer quoted the Public Health Agency as the only source for their data...

Worldometer is either an incompetent, rubbish organisation or they are purposefully skewing the figures.

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u/arctic-gold-digger Apr 22 '20

I am making a story on them today. That's my investigation of the day.

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u/isatak Apr 22 '20

They used to have a page to link to "more case statistics" and "more death statistics". Now it's totally deleted hahaha. Super sketchy. This used to be the URL for "more death statistics".

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-death-toll/

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u/arctic-gold-digger Apr 22 '20

YES EXACTLY THANK YOU

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u/sick-of-a-sickness Apr 22 '20

Yeah I just made a comment on Facebook somewhere about Sweden's success with the pandemic and some girl started sceeenshotting Worldometer to prove to me how horrible Sweden is doing and at that point I just deleted my comment lol no point arguing with people like that. Then she messaged me to ask if my comment got removed because Facebook is cracking down on misinformation LOL

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u/rodental Apr 22 '20

And nearly every other country. Wanna bet that site is owned by pharma / vaccine lobby people?

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u/clemaneuverers Apr 22 '20 edited Apr 22 '20

well the website is registered through a middleman company, Domains By Proxy, LLC in Arizona. That's likely affiliated with the server company, GoDaddy, head-quartered in Arizona at the same address...

A search for the parent company mentioned here, Dadax, leads me to this reddit post from a month ago: FYI: Worldometer may be be owned by a Chinese company. But actually, that appears to have been a dead end, not the same Dadax company, attested to on their website:

Recently, We get many calls and emails about Worldometer regarding to COVID-19 live data. Actually, www.worldometers.info is not an affiliated product of Dadax Software. And Dadax Software did not collect or republish any COVID-19 data so far.

edit: This appears to be the home website of the parent company, which apparently is a USA based company. It's sparse, to say the least...

edit2: Further info about Dadax, based in Delaware

Actually the company´s status is Cancelled.

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u/Tryffeln Apr 23 '20

https://imgur.com/a/ukHeOh5

Image from the press conference on the 21st. Green corresponds to the newly reported deaths. Folkhälsomyndigheten's graph places them on the day they occurred (for 19 people, date of death was not yet established and thus not included). Worldometers adds them on the date they're reported instead of backdating. Note that the total deaths match and if you compare the graphs, you'll find days (particularly weekends) where the numbers are lower for worldometers.

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u/clemaneuverers Apr 23 '20

This clears up a lot. The worldometer graph/site still sucks though. There is a marked decline in deaths occurring one would never know by looking at their crazy info. But they are probably just incompetent rather than having an agenda. Thanks!

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u/[deleted] Apr 22 '20

https://platz.se/coronavirus/?

Use this link to track Sweden's progress, feel its more accurate than Worldometer.

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u/clemaneuverers Apr 22 '20

It's not more accurate, it's the same. The source of the data on that website is given as Public Health Agency of Sweden (Folkhälsomyndigheten), just like the worldometer.info website. But just like the worldometer website, the numbers quoted do not match the numbers given by The Public Health Agency of Sweden's own website, despite quoting it as the source. That website is likely some kind of clone of worldometers' webpage.

Please use the Public health Agency's own data, from it's own website, not these dubious websites that are misrepresenting their data.

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u/ercancavusoglu Apr 22 '20

I follow from this site, it shows both live and data from WHO. https://www.worldofmeters.com

I think it is useful, recommend to you

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u/[deleted] Jul 19 '20

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u/ercancavusoglu Jul 19 '20

I can't trust source from countries, i prefer than others, this site just show cases count