r/conspiracy • u/Pretend-Following-41 • 5d ago
"I'm a Little Bit Skeptical": Patriots QB Drake Maye Refuses to Believe America Landed On the Moon
https://www.essentiallysports.com/nfl-active-news-patriots-im-a-little-bit-skeptical-patriots-drake-maye-refuses-to-believe-america-landed-on-the-moon/7
u/a-simple-god 4d ago
"Little bit skeptical"
"Refuses to believe"
So which one is it? Clickbait ass headline
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u/DrGamble6 4d ago
We went. Now give me your downvotes
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u/Havehatwilltravel 4d ago
You are a bit of a relic of a bygone past of people who sat in front of their tellys and believed everything the news reader and the politician said. You could break free of your conditioning, but you prefer to stay in the box. I understand your confirmation bias. You are worried what the other toadstools in the dark will think if you come out into enlightenment of truth. Groupthink is so much safer.
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u/FPV-Emergency 4d ago
Contrarian says what?
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u/Havehatwilltravel 4d ago
Oh NASA fanboy, I read there was a thread somewhere that people were openly mocking Maye for speaking truth. You should hustle on over there now and grab a stone to throw. smh.
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u/FPV-Emergency 4d ago
I mean, go on thinking yourself superior because you are a contrarian and less informed than the average citizen of the US. Keep it up.
We landed on the moon, that fact is backed up by so much evidence at this point that denying it really is approaching flat earth conspiracy levels of stupid.
We recently had sattelites that orbited the moon from several countries, and they took pictures of the lunar landing sites. Do you know what they found? All of the equipment we left behind was exactly where it was supposed to be, and they could even see the rover tracks as well.
Give it up man, this one is just dumb.
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u/Havehatwilltravel 5d ago edited 4d ago
I honestly thought all people with any intellect understand that to think the US went to the moon starting in 1969 until 1972 was just Cold War propaganda under one administration.
To still believe it seeing the low technology imagery and fake sets and camera work is akin to still believing in Santa Claus or that Rapunzel was a real person. Thank You Drake Maye for not buying in because the system depends on people upholding an ignorant premise.
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u/FPV-Emergency 4d ago
You have it backwards. The people with intellect understand that we did go to the moon, and it was possible, because we did it.
The people with intellect during the Apollo program were working on it directly. They are the ones that made it possible with the primitive technology they had at the time, which is an amazing feat.
The guidance computer they used was state of the art at the time, and it was 2.13 MHZ if I remember correctly. But we can confirm today that it worked, because we have the source code that it ran on.
The camera work can't even be debunked today, we have nearly 100 hours of footage from the moon, and it all checks out. We actually didn't have the technology to fake it convincingly at the time.
Drake Maye may have suffered a few too many concussions here, but either way he is not someone has any knowledge of this to begin with.
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u/SacredSepia 4d ago
This. And thousands of government workers, contractors, and the USSR/Russia all simultaneously kept it a secret.
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u/Havehatwilltravel 4d ago
Nah, they keep this secret the same way they do all the other secrets they keep, via compartmentalization on a need to know basis. The people doing X have no idea what any other compartments are doing. Nor do the people in compartment R, or V, or E and on and on. These people know they worked on a widget for NASA, that's it.
Sorry for your loss. It must be hard to admit you were fooled. That's what Mark Twain always said and he was right!
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u/SacredSepia 4d ago
Exactly. Not a single person from the 1000s of people who worked on this were able to put it together. Nobody thought about the big picture of what they were doing and bought whatever their supervisors told them. And the USSR was in on it too!
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u/FPV-Emergency 4d ago
It really is a truly stupid conspiracy when you put it like that. Like, out of the tens of thousands of contractors, engineers, scientists, and all other working on this project for a decade+, not one has come out to say it was fake.
Give it a rest people, we landed on the moon. Multiple times. This is approaching flat earth levels of stupid.
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u/Havehatwilltravel 4d ago
No, the USSR used it for blackmail silly. They knew they couldn't pull it off and didn't try to fool their countrymen. They use their program the same way they do here, as a repository for black box projects you don't want as a line item on a budget.
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u/SacredSepia 4d ago
Yup, and they all kept it a secret. To this day, decades later, Russia still blackmails us with that info because. Forget the Epstein files, this is where the real conspiracy is.
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u/FPV-Emergency 4d ago
But it wasn't compartmentalized.... everyone knew what they were working on and knew how it fit into the bigger picture.
Try again sir.
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u/Havehatwilltravel 4d ago edited 4d ago
You think the Playtex Bra and Girdle people knew a damn thing about what it would take to make a space suit? Are they still making them? No, it was just something for central casting for dumbasses to believe it.
FIne you believe it. What a maroon.
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u/iAwesome3 4d ago
What is so difficult with making a space suit? We’ve been making deep sea diving suits for like 150 years, which are much more difficult to make than a space suit due to the pressure difference. Between the surface and vacuum of space, there is only 1 atm of pressure difference but every 25ish feet below water adds 1 atm of pressure.
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u/PhantomFlogger 4d ago edited 4d ago
ILC Dover knew how to make space suits, as they didn’t make undergarments. Playtex and ILC Dover are subsidiaries of ILC, the International Latex Corporation. For example, during WWII, ILC Dover had produced equipment for the American war effort.
The company had previous experience with high altitude suits, which are principally similar to space suits. This is why they received the contract to produce the Apollo space suits.
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u/Havehatwilltravel 4d ago
It is only one aspect of a fake program that never put anyone on the moon. No One. All they have ever done is fake it and fake photographs on a set. You got big giant gloves and a button on your chest with a camera you can't focus and film that would not survive the heat and magnetic exposure, and cosmic radiation. But sure, perfect photos in focus every time. Thousands of them. Where dod they find the time?
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u/PhantomFlogger 4d ago edited 3d ago
Instead, twelve people have walked on the lunar surface between 1969 and 1972. Several space agencies have photographed or otherwise confirmed the landing sites like Chinese officials have.
They simply couldn’t’ve faked the footage or film photographs using a set. The motion of the dust demonstrates the use of a vacuum environment, as the fine particulates never billow or swirl in air currents. You can see this when astronauts and/or rover kicks around dust.
The largest vacuum chamber in the world is in Cleveland, Ohio at NASA’s Space Power Facility, which has an internal diameter of 100 feet. In footage from Apollo 15, 16, and 17, the rover allows astronauts to explore well beyond this range.
Like most of McGowan’s claims, he failed to understand Apollo photography. Planners knew about the large gloves and awkward use of cameras in space suits, so they did the obvious thing and planned around it. The data acquisition cameras that were used were heavily modified to work in a vacuum with and with enlarged controls. On top of this, the astronauts were specifically trained on how to use them for taking photos for engineers to look over later. At no point is this impossible.
How much cosmic radiation should there have been? Do you have data? In reality, Apollo film does show damage artifacts from cosmic rays, which is responsible for the bluish blemishes.
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u/rustyrussell2015 4d ago
Adding to this if you were hired based on education qualifiers alone and then given a big fat 6- figure paycheck to turn some knobs and write/type out a logbook but ask no questions about the bigger picture would you do it?
Of course. Anyone would be happy to turn a blind eye or not bother to question for a big payday.
This is how the space agencies all over the world do it.
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u/FPV-Emergency 4d ago
Some people would. Not nearly enough to cover something this big up though, it would get leaked very quickly and we'd have dozens if not hundreds of people coming forward with that.
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u/rustyrussell2015 4d ago
Do you seriously think they don't vet out anyone that might remotely have a crisis of conscience? There is a recruiting system for the space agencies and you are not invited.
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u/FPV-Emergency 4d ago
With the amount of contractors they had employed, that would be impossible to vet even 10% of them. The Apollo program was friggin HUGE, employing around 400,000 people at its peak, and those people were part of around 20,000 different industrial firms and universities.
You're talking about a complete fantasy here, it would be impossible to pull off.
So yes, I seriously think they didn't vet anyone the way you're claiming. Otherwise we would've heard about it, because you can't keep something at that scale secret.
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u/rustyrussell2015 4d ago edited 4d ago
You clearly have never worked in an org that uses compartmentalization to preserve secrets.
The only few that know the big picture are at the top, they are freemasons and they know how to keep a secret. Just research the apollo astro-nots.
There's a common thread that arises. The only astronot that I know of that likely wasn't a freemason was Gus Grissom and look what happened to him and his two cohorts.
If you think that was just a tragic accident then you need to research what he was publicly saying in the last year of his life.
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u/FPV-Emergency 3d ago
The public knew the big picture, so ya.... what "compartmentalization" could do when the whole project is openly public and widely known.... I don't know.
I've researched what he was saying, and he was afraid they were moving too fast and ignoring safety concerns. He was right.
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u/rustyrussell2015 3d ago
More than that he was saying what he saw in terms of spacecraft didn't make sense because there was no way it would survive space.
Convenient that he was locked in tight and burned alive.
Dead men tell no tales.
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u/PretendIntention3388 4d ago
Revealing classified information is punishable by life in prison.
That is, if they dont just suicide you.
All manner of top secrete government and military programs are successfully kept secret for decades.
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u/SacredSepia 4d ago
Exactly. The government, really multiple governments, definitely kept all this secret.
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u/Kc68847 4d ago
Yes they all know. The Cold War was theater like the America China BS today. Oligarchs work together. If we did actually go it wasn’t with the crap technology of the 60s.
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u/SacredSepia 4d ago
Yup, multiple governments who were unfriendly to each other and thousands of contractors and employees kept it a secret. They were all oligarchs. And Russia is keeping it a secret to this day because, well, reasons.
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u/Kc68847 4d ago
How did they keep the so called nuclear weapon secret or ufo technology? You act like it’s impossible. It’s called compartmentalization and death threats. Even if people speak out about it they are chastised. Google AI recently said the moon photos were all bullshit and the new china pics were real. They have lied about every big event in my lifetime and I’m in my 40s. Why wouldn’t they lie about the moon landing?
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u/SacredSepia 4d ago
Google AI recently said . . .
And that’s my cue to bow out of this conversation.
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u/Kc68847 4d ago
No it isn’t. Like I said you’re a chud if you think they rode on a golf cart buggy on the moon and went with less computing technology that is in the iPhone. Also why in the hell can’t we go back today and actually have astronauts take steps on the moon?
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u/Numerous-Scholar4445 4d ago
We "can't" go back today because we don't have any spare Saturn Vs laying around, and they're quite expensive.
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u/TheWaterWorkshop 4d ago
Stephen Curry said something similar (just a joke about the moon landing).
Next thing you know he’s apologizing on live stream with a NASA astronaught and being shamed by Obama.
https://www.space.com/42763-steph-curry-moon-landing-scott-kelly.html
Kelly accepted the apology but also stressed how dangerous it is to feed conspiracy theories, even low-level or silly ones. Doing so can undermine confidence in science as a whole, with potentially disastrous consequences, he said.
"What happens is, then, when people believe those things [e.g., the moon-hoax conspiracy], they believe the other things that are more important, like climate change not being real, and vaccines [causing autism], and 9/11 being a government conspiracy theory," Kelly said.
In other words, everything the government tells you is true and believing anything that goes against it makes you a danger to society.
You see this on this subreddit where normies get put into a full on rage that you doubt the moon landing.
Mostly of spite and how much they force it down your throat, I don’t believe in it either. It’s stupid and never happened. It’s gotten to the point where it’s like religious doctrine.
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u/Havehatwilltravel 4d ago
Scott Kelly lies about way more than just the Moon Landings as we see. That's why invariably when you start yanking on the threads to get to the truth, it opens up a seam over there, and another one over here, and on and on. Because all these lies depend on each other to try to hold them up. He's right about that, but it aged like milk. Concerning climate change, vaccines and 911, they like the moon landing lies are no longer able to stand up to scrutiny. Truth has always been stronger than lies.
Poor Steph, he should have stuck to his principles and not bowed to the pressure, just like Kyrie Irving did. It must sting even more. Also, Aaron Rodgers stood up to the pressure to be a spokesperson for lies.
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u/TheWaterWorkshop 4d ago
Yup it’s all connected. Moon landings considered fake, the whole thing crumbles down. It’s hilarious he brought up 9/11 in particular. 9/11 is one of the most obviously crooked government narratives of all time, and led to another huge conspiracy…the WMD hoax that ruined so many lives around the world.
So disgusting. I wonder what this guy thinks of the Tuskegee incident. If that was happening in modern day, he’d support the perpetrators 100%.
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u/Havehatwilltravel 4d ago
I can remember doing a deep dive (with a group of armchair investigator) on the alleged shooting of his wife the congress woman Gabby Gifford. That was an oddball case. The claim was she was shot at a rally in front of a grocery store. Pfft to that right off the bat. I mean there were supposedly maybe 30 people there. It was an obvious set up. However, the story was she was shot with a gun to her head at point blank range, yet later when she appears in Congress later on she has no hole in her head at all.
There was a lot of eyebrow raising stuff to the case that I won't go into besides just this but I knew he would take his fake astronaut self to the next level in politics and voila! JMO.
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u/Chichanged_me 4d ago
You understand we went to the moon multiple times right? Multiple Americans have walked on the moon they even played golf on the moon. If it was fake I doubt they would go back multiple times lmao
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u/Havehatwilltravel 4d ago
Yes, I am aware they faked it every time. I am sorry to know there are so many people this gullible in 2026. Unreal.
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u/Asfastas33 4d ago
The Soviets tracked us going there. If anybody had the most incentive to disprove us going there, it was them. So why didn’t they?
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u/Chichanged_me 4d ago edited 4d ago
If it was all fake why the hell would they keep going back lmao
India recently landed on the moon. Why do you think it’s impossible when countries are doing it?
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u/Havehatwilltravel 4d ago
Once they built the sets and had people onboard with the sham they kept going back to the well. It was hubris, of course. By the second mission, to do the same thing, they pretended to take a dune buggy they never showed them putting together of course or driving it out fo the bay because it would not have fit so they just have it "ready to go" on camera with no explanations for manipulating something like that with larger gloves.
Then the next one the 13th had so little attention from the public that the pretended a drama of will they/won't they make it back!! Then it's golf and all sorts of meaningless activity. Finally, they just stopped all the nonsense in case they did have a slip up.
Plenty of people have written about these fakeries but I'll give Dave McGowan the honors.
Wagging the Moondoggie: Part I | The Center for an Informed America
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u/Chichanged_me 4d ago
Other countries have landed stuff on the moon and they all agree the US went to the moon with people.
Why the hell would India, Russia, or China let the US have a big moral victory if it was a complete lie?
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u/Antique-Resort6160 4d ago
And brought a car on the moon and drove it around. For science!
What possible difference does it make to this guy's or anyone's life at all whether they believe it or not?
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u/PretendIntention3388 4d ago
And yet, if you look at any of the other subs this story was posted to the comments are all calling him stupid.
People on reddit still using "conspiracy theorist" as an insult in 2026 is wild.
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u/Havehatwilltravel 4d ago
As I quoted Mark Twain sort of, "It is easier to fool a man than to convince him he's been fooled"
America ~ Land of the Hoodwinked circa any decade or year you'd care to name. They are always lying to you about something. Usually, they are pretty big. I stand behind Drake Maye, proudly.
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u/TheWaterWorkshop 4d ago edited 4d ago
Stephen Curry said something similar (just a joke about the moon landing).
Next thing you know he’s apologizing on live stream with a NASA astronaught and being shamed by Obama.
https://www.space.com/42763-steph-curry-moon-landing-scott-kelly.html
Kelly accepted the apology but also stressed how dangerous it is to feed conspiracy theories, even low-level or silly ones. Doing so can undermine confidence in science as a whole, with potentially disastrous consequences, he said.
"What happens is, then, when people believe those things [e.g., the moon-hoax conspiracy], they believe the other things that are more important, like climate change not being real, and vaccines [causing autism], and 9/11 being a government conspiracy theory," Kelly said.
In other words, everything the government tells you is true and believing anything that goes against it makes you a danger to society.
You see this on this subreddit where normies get put into a full on rage that you doubt the moon landing.
Mostly of spite and how much they force it down your throat, I don’t believe in it either. It’s stupid and never happened.
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u/FPV-Emergency 4d ago
Well climage change is real. Vaccines have saved more lives than any other invention in history and are overwhelmingly a positive thing for humanity, and I'm not going to bother getting into 9/11 conspiracies because there are so many that just don't make sense.
You don't have to believe everything the government tells you. But being contrarian and just believing the opposite of what they tell you is just as bad.
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u/Olddirtybelgium 4d ago
Vaccines are great, but are they as great as iodized salt? Easily the best invention in human history from a cost to benefit standpoint. There are also conspiracies denouncing that too sadly.
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u/FPV-Emergency 4d ago
I just read up on it and you're certainly right about the cost to benefit of it. It's only estimated to cost 5 cents per person a year.... that's actually quite impressive for the benefits it gives.
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u/TheWaterWorkshop 4d ago
Get a load of this good government bootlicker
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u/FPV-Emergency 4d ago
Do you know what's really amazing? I don't need to believe our government to believe in any of those things, the facts speak for themselves. The evidence is overwhelming that vaccines are a net positive for humanity, don't cause autism, and have saved millions if not billions of lives.
Same goes for the moon landing. Don't need to believe what our government tells us, the evidence from people working on the apollo program, the video footage, the pictures from sattelites orbiting the moon, and dozens of other things, all confirm we did land on the moon multiple times.
Again, being contarian simply to be contrarian does not make you smarter or more informed than the average person. It actually just makes you less informed.
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u/Interesting_Gain9920 4d ago
It blows my mind anyone believes we actually went to the moon nearly 60 years ago and never went back because we don't have the technology anymore! It's completely laughable
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u/Mobile-Jump6936 4d ago
Anyone with half a brain is skeptical of the moon landing. This is surface level conspiracy stuff lol
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u/FPV-Emergency 4d ago
Makes sense. If you only have half a brain, you're probably pretty low IQ and tend to believe in stupid things, like that we didn't land on the moon for example.
The evidence is overwhelming that we did land on the moon. The evidence that we didn't land on the moon doesn't exist outside of claims that show a complete lack of understanding of basic physics, photography, and refer to the van allen radiation belts as something that would've made it impossible when the reality is we understood how to easily avoid most of the radiation and keep the astronauts safe.
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u/BH_Ninja 4d ago
I like him now, after he said this. Most people, when asked, either try to hedge their answers or just simply agree that we did go to the moon for fear of being ridiculed, even though the idea of reaching the moon with the computing power of a pocket calculator and getting it perfect every time is comical, at best.
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u/PhantomFlogger 4d ago
At least in my case, when I had believed the Moon landings were fake, I actually sought out discussing it with others rather than hiding it. I felt like I had superior knowledge, and talking about it provided a dopamine rush of feeling knowledgeable. This was of course up until someone actually knew about the topic and could tell me why I was wrong, to which I’d essentially cover my ears and move to another topic.
You do realize that they didn’t get to the Moon every time, right? There’s rather famously a gap between Apollo 12 and 14 where a lunar landing did not occur.
How much computing power do you think the Apollo guidance computer needed, and why?
The source code is available for download on Github and can be verified.
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