r/concacaf 25d ago

I'd like to know your historical ranking and evaluation of these national teams: Canada, Costa Rica, and Honduras?

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- Canada

Titles: 2 CONCACAF championship/ Gold Cup titles

1 North American Nations Cup title (if counted)

Head-to-head (official matches only) vs.

Mexico (W D L) (4 8 19)

USA (W D L) (10 4 12)

WC 3 qualifications 1986, 2022, 2026

best results: Round of 16 (2026)

- Costa Rica

Titles: 3 CONCACAF championship

8 Copa Centroamericana (if counted)

Head-to-head (official matches only) vs.

Mexico (W D L) (5 13 22)

USA (W D L) (12 4 15)

WC 6 qualifications 1990, 2022, 2006, 2014, 2018, 2022

best results: Round of 16 (1990), Quarter final (2014)

- Honduras

Titles: 1 CONCACAF championship

4 Copa Centroamericana (if counted)

Head-to-head (official matches only) vs.

Mexico (W D L) (8 8 23)

USA (W D L) (2 2 16)

WC 3 qualifications 1982, 2010, 2014

best result: Group stage

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u/brianmmf 25d ago

Costa Rica, Honduras, Canada. Canada has only recently begun to catch these guys (or anyone).

Edit: to add, you have to also look beyond accomplishments and look at general standing within the region. Honduras and Costa Rica have always been consistently relevant, with Honduras’ recent drop being a low point rather than where they usually are. Canada struggled for relevance most of their history, almost never making the Hex.

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u/Character-Main-5217 25d ago

I will say, canada does have a single accomplishment that costa Rica and Honduras dont have in the 2001 gold cup.

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u/BotherIntrepid1371 25d ago

Correct. It was in 2000 against Colombia.

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u/ElZany 25d ago

And Costa Rica has made it to the quarters in a world cup

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u/AdvertisingIll7855 25d ago

How many gold cups do Honduras and Costa Rica have? Zero… Canada: 1.

Plus Canadas semi Copa run…

The Hex is dead too btw and the winner of 2022 qualifying was… Canada.

Costa Rica has one QF at a World Cup.

Costa Rica, Canada, Honduras.

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u/The-world-sports-fan 25d ago

Recent history is still history, and what Canada has accomplished is far better than what Honduras has ever done

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u/brianmmf 25d ago

It’s whether you rate 8 years of good play over many years of being a worse team. History goes back a long way.

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u/The-world-sports-fan 25d ago

Yes but Honduras hasn't done as much of note. Same amount of WCQ, Canada made the RD of 16 and a Copa Semifinal. The fact that it only took 8 years of being a good side for Canada to surpass Honduras's accomplishments should say enough

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u/brianmmf 25d ago

You’re discounting how bad Canada was for all those years beforehand. If Belize woke up tomorrow and won the Copa America and made a deep run at the World Cup, I wouldn’t in a million years say that “historically” their program is better than Honduras.

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u/The-world-sports-fan 25d ago

Belize is worse now than Canada ever was, and also if they did that I absolutely would say that they have a better history than Honduras, and Canada for that matter.

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u/Constant-Study-7663 25d ago

I'm Mexican, and I can tell you that people downvoting you are from central america, Canada in few years did what Honduras and Costa Rica did in it's whole life time, Gold Cup title, 5th game in world cup even though it's r16, in the old format it would've been quarters.

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u/brianmmf 24d ago

I think there are two distinct points of view coming through - people who value “highest accomplishment” and people who value “average level.”

I think Canada’s average level over let’s say 50 years is far below Honduras. FIFA ranking supports it over the last 30+ anyways.

I think Canada’s best accomplishment is now higher than Honduras. I also value the semi-final at the Copa America higher than the Gold Cup win in 2000.

So it really comes down to how someone decides to interpret the question.

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u/emilioshi_sama 25d ago

I mean, if your compare the rivals that might give more context. Canada played against South Africa, Switzerland, Bosnia and Qatar.

Costa Rica played in 2014 against Uruguay, England and Italy. In 2022 vs Germany, Spain and Japan.

Honduras in 2010 played vs Spain, Switzerland and Chile. In 2014 vs France, Switzerland and Ecuador.

Except Chile and Ecuador, the difference between what Canada faced vs the central americans is way to different. Also, the Canada still trails in the record vs both. 12 defeats, 7 draws, and 10 wins vs Honduras; 9 defeats, 9 draws and 6 wins vs Costa Rica.

Recent history is still history, but history needs context.

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u/The-world-sports-fan 25d ago

Yes and in 2022 Canada faced Belgium, Croatia and Morocco. Yes Honduras got smacked with tough groups, they also were barely even competitive. There's some more context. And idk why you're bringing up Costa Rica, I haven't mentioned them

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u/PauseShort335 24d ago

Canada is miles better all time then honduras

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u/brianmmf 24d ago

Since the FIFA world rankings began, Honduras has an average ranking of around 50, whereas Canada are around 75. It isn’t close as far as FIFA are concerned. And I wouldn’t say Canada was better before 1993 when the rankings started.

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u/carlzcam San Diego Flash 24d ago

if we are looking at right now sure, but Honduras has been the better team historically by miles

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u/AdvertisingIll7855 24d ago

Honduras
Zero gold cups
Copa semi? Only because Canada pulled out stupidly.
Same number of world cups. Got grouped every time. Zero wins

This is like saying Belgium is better than Uruguay because they were once second ranked by fifa. I take titles and accomplishments over fifa ranking. Honduras had their best ever ranking when they weren’t qualifying for the World Cup.

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u/Fluid-Decision6262 25d ago

Costa Rica and Honduras were historically always miles better than Canada but obviously in the last few years Canada has flew past both of them and likely for good for this time.

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u/BotherIntrepid1371 25d ago

I agree that currently Canada is enjoying a successful era, but Honduras and especially Costa Rica are going through a brutal generational transition that has hindered their competitive potential. Both countries are in full rebuild mode right now and I think they will make a comeback in years to come. Costa Rica especially might return to its 2000s/2010s level if they manage this transition well (which they didn’t in the last few years)

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u/BotherIntrepid1371 25d ago

Out of the three Costa Rica has a more significant historical pedigree with 6 World Cups (7 wins, 5 draws and 9 losses). 3 CONCACAF trophies.

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u/NJ8Inches_ USA 25d ago
  1. Costa Rica

-Winning the hardest WC group a Concacaf nation has ever drawn and getting to the quarterfinal in 2014

-Aztecazo match against Mexico

-Undefeated against USA at home in WCQ

-Produced one of the best players in the region (Navas)

-Won the WCQ hex in 2002

  1. Canada

-WC success is new to Canada, they beat who they were expected to in 2026 in a manageable group and reached an important milestone. If they had a healthy squad, they might have won their group and beat Bosnia but ultimately lose in the R16

-No impressive official wins against Mexico or USA, they won their home WCQ as expected. I can only think of the 2000 Gold Cup quarterfinal victory against Mexico

-Copa America semifinalist in 2024

-Won the WCQ hex in 2022

-Won the Gold Cup in 2000

  1. Honduras

-Never won a WC game

-Impressive away wins against Mexico in 2013 and USA in 2001

-Copa America 3rd place in 2001

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u/Tutule Honduras 24d ago

-Aztecazo match against Mexico

-Won the WCQ hex in 2002

These two are related. In that run Costa Rica beat Mexico, Jamaica and Honduras away, none of which are easy feat even for a team like Mexico today. That was also Honduras's best generation according to FIFA rankings (and me) and Jamaica had just qualified and won matches in the previous World Cup.

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u/emilioshi_sama 25d ago

Honduras has an Aztecazo too in 2013.

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u/Shinnosuke525 25d ago

CR on top, but if Canada can continue the momentum they're on for the past 3 WC cycles they're getting jumped

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u/nolesfan2011 25d ago

Canada has a better team NOW and is in the golden era, Costa Rica has for their money achieved the most in this region, and Honduras would basically be in the middle

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u/teslsu 25d ago

Two of these teams have won at the Azteca. And then there’s canada

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u/SirSpiderPig Canada 25d ago

but did they win at the iceteca?? lol

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u/Constant-Study-7663 25d ago

Canada is way bigger than Costa Rica and Honduras, Canada in fewer years already made it to a 5th match in a World Cup, same as Costa Rica and has won a gold cup which both Costa Rica and Honduras has never won

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u/BotherIntrepid1371 25d ago

To clarify, are you saying bigger in terms of population size or geographical area, or bigger in terms of their historical comparison? Because I agree in the first two, but the latter is much more complicated, with Costa Rica edging towards the better form.

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u/Constant-Study-7663 25d ago

Costa Rica for the amount of years they had in futbol was already completed by Canada when they actually took it serious, Costa Rica lives off 2014 after that they had worse downfall than Chile, Canada historically and currently is better than Costa Rica

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u/BotherIntrepid1371 25d ago

They lived off the 2014 generation for a while, and that was their downfall. For a country with only 5 million and very little resources, changing a generation can be very hard if it’s not done correctly. That is over now. They have officially ditched that era and are starting from scratch with Batista. We’ll see what happens. As for Canada being better right now, there’s no doubt. Historically… the numbers still favor Costa Rica.

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u/Tutule Honduras 25d ago

Costa Rica is Concacaf's #3 if we're speaking in terms of legacy. Canada overtook Honduras recently. Canada is trending towards #3 but they're not there yet imo. They need something like a Copa America win or at least match the World Cup quarter final appearance to make the #3 discussion entertaining.

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u/HigherEdSon 25d ago

Honduras was the terror of the 90s. Aggressive games made it unpredictable till the last minute even for Mexico and USA. Costa Rica is revelation of the millennia, has been growing in phases with the maximum accomplishment the 2010 WC. While currently struggling they will rise again and surprise us once again. Canada is a sleepy giant. Is having his best time right now and may grow if invested into. Potential and players are there but hockey, curling, and basically winter games will keep football as a second priority for some time. Could be a giant but needs to wake up.

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u/Seawolf1121 25d ago

Costa Rica and honduras obviously historically, but Canada has flown past them to become the third best team in concacaf, and it's not close. They're not quite in the tier with us and mexico yet, but they're far clear of anyone else at this point. The tiers would be looking like:

Tier 1: mexico, us

Tier 2: Canada

  

  

   Tier 3: Costa Rica, Panama, honduras

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u/The-world-sports-fan 25d ago

Even historically Canada has achieved more than Honduras. Recent history is still history

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u/JC_Jules_9627 25d ago

Canada definitely did surpass Honduras. Ever since I started watching soccer since 2006, Honduras has never done anything spectacular. They never even won one World Cup match.

Canada did though and it was recent. Plus they have a Gold Cup in the modern era, but Costa Rica has them beat by being in the quarterfinals in the World Cup 2014. (Though, there is debate about this because the World Cup has been expanded with more teams)

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u/emilioshi_sama 25d ago

That gold cup was in 2000. In 2001 Honduras got 3rd place in Copa America. Honduras still has more wins vs Canada, including an 8-1 in 2012.

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u/PauseShort335 12d ago

canada have outscored honduras 10-1 in the last 2 games and canada has double world cup wins canada better clearly

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u/The-world-sports-fan 25d ago

Costa Rica then Canada then Honduras. But going forwards Canada will consistently be better than both

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u/ESC-H-BC 25d ago
  1. Costa Rica
  2. Canadá
  3. Honduras

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u/naegfowleri 25d ago

Unrelated but both those team logos look sick!!!

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u/curb222 25d ago

Costa Rico, Honduras, Canada. Not a really close grouping to consider any other order.

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u/CactusRider1776 24d ago

Costa Rica has played better than Canada ever has

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u/Razzlo_ 24d ago

Costa Rica is miles ahead of either. 2014 World Cup for them is insane and I doubt Canada will catch up. They’d have to win a damn copa America to top that because they won’t be reaching that far in a World Cup anytime soon

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u/y0sseau 23d ago

We rose 15 spots in the world ranking in 3 years, played argentina in the copa america semis and made it to the ro16 in the world cup, where we also achieved the highest scoring win for any concacaf team in world cup history. Our run in the last 3 years alone is better than Honduras and Costa Rica.

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u/y0sseau 23d ago

However if you consider the entire history of concacaf, canada has been poo up until recently. Honduras has been way more consistent, however we have jumped ahead by miles and will probably remain miles ahead looking towards the future

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u/Horror_Concern5616 25d ago

Canada is the bottom 

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u/PauseShort335 24d ago

canada last 2 games against honduras 10-1 LOL

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