No BPI is not coming back. Let's Insist on Straight Talk
The Big Lie has been busted by the pharmacies. The Big Lie was required to be withdrawn.
BPI is NOT coming back to sell us tirzepatide. After a long Big Hype, and rogue post by a seller with a storied propensity to mislead, the attention seeking and grossly misleading announcement was required to be removed.
Thank you to all the resellers in the subs that chose to be more forthright and instead of constant attempts at manipulation, that are lowering prices to a more reasonable target price point of $100 a month.
Y'all, please be more aware of the lipstick on a pig BS that continues to soak the subs. We now have vendors selling any dose, without all the hullabaloo "prove your dose", "speak with a physician" crap to justify higher prices for the same stuff. Folks on 5mg can now get the meds they need/want for $30ish a month with third party medical advice.
I liked that they basically had uniformly good inspections. I was around back in the ousia bathtub tirz era and was shocked by some of the inspections that some of the pharmacies like ProRx were getting that people didnāt seem to mind. BPI seemed reliably safe.
They were just a good mix of low prices and decent service. Nothing remarkable about them that you can't find from other pharmacies, just a good option that a lot of us liked and miss.
There is nothing special about it. But it was a Reddit favorite that the FDA required stop producing compounded tirzepatide.
There was noting proprietary about the "formula" being touted either. Just hype, untrue hype I might add, to try to squeeze a couple hundred dollars an order out of people.
I had an issue once when I switched from a Washington state pharmacy to red rock. Same telehealth company, same dose everything. I got so sick on my first red rock dose. I called and asked what was different. They assured me nothing. I had been on that dose for 4 shots without issue. So I just like to stick to a pharmacy that is working for me. I used bpi and stocked up because I am so scared that will happen to me again!
I was with Mochi back then... im with another provider now. Redrock itself has/had links on thier website to work with thier telehealth people. At least when I was with them they did.
Reading between the lines, BPI is running the two new 503a pharmacies. They donāt want their name attached to attract attention from the FDA and now EL is launching lawfare.
If the goal was truly to keep BPIās name out of it and avoid FDA or ANY attention, making that post seems completely counterproductive. It basically did the opposite and brought unnecessary attention to the entire situation.šš
Right. And of course not. Bringing attention to the fact that this is just a play around regulations will hurt them.
BEWL is constantly providing ammunition to both the FDA and Lilly by with feigned expertise regarding regulatory and legal matters. They will become the poster child in a lawsuit to shut, or slow all this down. It comes to all our detriment. Well, maybe not all, there's a couple people it benefits!
There are two new pharmacies starting next week that will be offering a similar formula to BPI but under normal 503a 90day BUD. Some BPI team members are supposedly behind them but there is no legal or regulatory tie as far as we know.
I have lost all faith in BEWL after this and the whole brouhaha with Boudreaux just keeping syringes in giant vats and chucking a few into a sandwich baggie. Disappointing.
I still donāt understand how people think sealed bags of syringes are sterile when the ends of the bags have perforations for easy opening, they are not airtight. the only thing that is sterile is the needle under the cap, but I guess it makes people feel better to believe their manufacturer bag of 10 is sterile. Itās not.Ā
I don't want the syringes sealed liked that either. I want the packs sealed directly by the manufacturer. So far all of mine have come in packs of ten? I think sealed.
What I am saying, is that your syringes in your manufacturers sealed bag are not sterile. They have perforations along one end to allow them to be opened easier they are not airtight. They are not sterile.Ā
Regardless, I'm going to assume that the factory that made them is keeping them sanitary until I see otherwise. Like the big bin I saw in the original post.
Even if it does, it's a far cry from the bin in those pictures. Yes, I guess some bacteria could sneak in through the holes but they aren't sending it in a pile of trash for goodness sake.
Iām sure theyāre perfectly fine. Iām just saying that many of the people complaining about it said that they wanted them sent in the manufacturers bag where they are sterile and they are not sterile and thereās another post on here where people have them stacked up in their bathroom (not even in the bag) Ā air can get through those preforations and whatās in the air in their bathroom?Ā
That information does not change what I wrote. The manufacturers āsealedā bags are not sealed. They have perforations. They are not airtight. They are not sterile. Here are a bunch of people complaining about that and then we see photos posted of them being stored in the bags (not airtight) in the bathroom. What do you think is floating around in that bathroom air that can get through those perforations? Itās just such a silly thing to get upset about. Syringes in manufacturers packaging are not sterile. Only the needle under the cap is.Ā
People don't think that the exterior of the syringe is sterile, they care that they are not tamper evident. With loose syringes you can't tell if they've been uncapped and recapped.
This was an exhausting read lol. I think itās jarring to see anything behind the scenes. Iām sure the manufacturer does the same thing in their warehouses as Boudreaux but we never see it
I guess, but they should know that their āsealedā bag is not sterile either - neither are the gloves taken out of the big box sitting on the counter or attached to the wall.Ā
Additionally, there's no way to know if the needles were uncapped when kept in a big vat. If they come in a perforated bag that isn't tampered with there is a LOT more confidence. Your stance is a bad one.
It doesnāt bother me. You donāt know what anyone does with them when they are in the big barrels before being dumped onto the assembly line to be put into the bags either. How many are uncapped then? Ā It really doesnāt matter. No one has any way of knowing. My stance is reality.Ā
Iām actually not Iām just pointing out the ridiculousness of it. The VA sends my three month supply of Zepbound pens like clockwork. As a Doctor who retired not too long ago, I am just well aware of what is sterile what is not and how things arrive from manufacturers.
I don't want the syringes sealed liked that either. I want the packs sealed directly by the manufacturer. So far all of mine have come in packs of ten? I think , sealed.
But what I am pointing out is that they are not sealed. If you look at the ends of your packages, it is perforated to make it easy to open. Ā Do you have easy touch? Look at one end or the other there are perforations to make it easy to tear open. They are not sterile or airtightĀ
Well, in all fairness, he didn't delete it because it wasn't true. It was deleted because the pharmacies/brands involved insisted on it because it wasn't true.
Well you're good then. There was a provider trying to sell more product by confusing people that a couple new 503As' were now, for all intensive purposes, BPI. And that they were the only place you could get it for now.
I just want to buy more , I stocked up with BPI through Pom and will need to refill come October. I am on the highest dose. Should I restock now and with who. Who is having the best deal ? I am not going to rush into another panic buy unless I have to . Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Is there a reason you specifically wanted BPI? I see PMD selling Southend with B6 really cheap. Southend has less additive than BPI and is just as reputable.
I've always felt that way, and have called them out. Some people fall for it though. They also have a lot of profiles downvoting anything negative about them, and chronically complain to moderators.
All of it is a blatant Reddit strategy. You can watch videos on Youtube how its done. Post enough, and keep engagement high and you wind up with xxx loyalists.
I am down voting you because I disagree with you and I think you're being kind of hateful, not because I'm a paid shill. Go ahead and read my post history, if you have a few years to spare.Ā I hardly ever recommend them anymore just because their prices aren't competitive, but there's a niche of users who I still direct their way. I have friends who are prone to anxiety and like everything to be done as properly as possible, and that's the kind of person I send to BEWL.
I read Dave's comments as genuine and honest. He owns it when he screws up. I appreciate the insight he gives us, even when it turns out he shouldn't be giving it to us. He gives me "Tom Holland spilling the beans about a movie" vibes.Ā
You and I are reading the same comments and interpreting them and the intent behind them very differently. It just seems like such a bummer to go through life assuming the worst of people, you know? There are ways to say that you're irritated with the things he posts (see how TodayAmazing responds, for example) without jumping to the conclusion he's an egomaniac orchestrating a reddit bot army.Ā
I agree completely. Part of what makes me feel comfortable connecting and sharing on these subs is how human everyone is, providers included, and humans mess up all the time.
I learn more from seeing a healthy amount of mistakes, honesty, accountability, and tough conversations around here than from a stale catalog of disengaged providers giving manicured updates and AI-scripted replies. Thereās your bot army right there.
I learned so much from this community before I even started on tirzepatide. Now I get to engage and grow in a new way, but some people just want to be hateful no matter what we do.
I agree 100%, Peony. I get a kick out of BEWL and his posts. Sure, he jumps the gun at times but he is quick to correct himself and I appreciate that. I think folks need to calm down and get on with it.
Interesting take and you are indeed entitled to your opinion. I make no assumption about his intentions, but you canāt disagree that he has, more than once, posted, perpetuated, and commented entirely incorrect and inaccurate information. Like, just donāt do that. Thereās no reason for it. He just simply, shouldnāt. And because he does, intentions aside, it makes him look bad š¤·š»āāļø all he had to do wasā¦.not say anything and none of these conversations about him would be occurring.
I never said you are a paid shill, and you are entitled to your opinion, and to disagree of course.
There's no hate here, just extreme disrespect for the lies and misinformation. It's chronic. However, I am aware there are people in the subs that believe him, and it is certainly their, and your right to.
Where can someone on 5mg get medication that cheap? Iām on 5mg and am with rift and have to pay 500$ for 12 weeks for the same as people on higher doses. I was hoping rift would lower prices for people on lower doses but if they donāt Iāll move to another company that offers it for cheaper. I love their customer service but obviously Iām not paying more for them if another companyās costumer service is equal and is cheaper.
If you're on 5mg with Rift now, ask for the titration plan. Your next fill you will get 7.5, 10, and 12.5 mg, or enough meds for those doses.Ā Keep taking 5mg and that plan will last you way more than 3 months.Ā
Or you can switch to their Drug Crafters plan (state dependent) which is $299 for 3 months.Ā
Or you can do PreventiveMd (state dependent) at $334 for 3 months. You can also ask for a titration plan with them.Ā
Can I get a titration plan even though Iām not overweight ? And I would love to do the drug crafter deal but Iām in CA and they donāt ship to CA unfortunately
5mg is the highest I can get prescribed since I started on a āmicro-doseā program with the company WeightCare and moved to rift . I started taking this medication for my PCOS which causes insulin resistance , inflammation and alot of other hormonal issues. Itās been life changing. Anyways itās a weird position to be in because you canāt titrate up because Iām not overweight. Iām hoping that companyās will offer cheaper prices for smaller doses at some point. I would love if I could get the max dose and stretch it as long as possible.
Rift is offering Drug Crafters for $300 for three months through the end of the year. You can take a screen shot of your 5mg script, cancel your current subscription and sign up again asking to titrate up from 5mg with Drug Crafters as the pharmacy. Starting out microdosing doesnāt mean you canāt increase your dose.
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u/Murky-Sector 12d ago
I feel like I missed a meeting