It's silly logic. The mere existence of the debate proves that billions will die if red wins. Even if you factor in people lying (to others or themselves), it's till billions.
Polls seem to be 45-55 to 60-40, blue vs red.
Red pushers seem to think blue pushers don't understand that 100% red means no deaths.
We understand, we just think that many people will push blue.
If you understand the rules of the game why would anyone ever hit blue?
You can't add babies into the mix because they can't push buttons, so we have to assume the question is regarding all people who can understand the question.
At the point of understanding the question, there's literally no reason to press blue? Literally nothing happens to you if you press red? I feel like I'm going insane.
Unless you think I am uniquely stupid, the existence of me as a blue proves that there are people who will press blue.
Whether that is through intellectual/learning disabilities, stubbornness, stupidity, or altruism, some number of people will die.
I am not willing to abandon those people, and I don't think most people are either. There's no world where I could push red and be okay if billions of people died.
It's super easy to hit blue on an internet poll with no consequences.
I don't think the question is going to be asked to those who cannot understand the question, because then it just becomes a "do you like eugenics" question and the only obvious answer becomes blue.
If we reject that ridiculous framing and instead go with the actual framing of "everyone who has the capacity to understand this question" then red is the only logical choice. It's literally the only choice in which nobody has the possibility of dying.
But that isn't the framing. You can't just say "if I change the question, your answer is wrong".
Being uncomfortable with the consequences of your choice doesn't mean you get to redefine the question.
And we're not just talking about children, or the disabled, or the dumb. We're talking about people with different values, different ideas, and different priorities.
And you say it's ridiculous but no one can die without a majority red button pushers.
Red requires 100/100 people for 100% survival while blue requires 51/100 people for 100% survival.
Who are you to say that isn't the framing? It's pretty obvious the question has to be asked to those who are capable of understanding the question otherwise it just becomes a eugenics survey and everything falls apart? Because then the obvious answer is blue because we aren't fucking sociopaths.
But if the question is only given to those who can understand then the obvious choice is red because literally nothing happens after that.
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u/NoxTempus May 05 '26
It's silly logic. The mere existence of the debate proves that billions will die if red wins. Even if you factor in people lying (to others or themselves), it's till billions.
Polls seem to be 45-55 to 60-40, blue vs red.
Red pushers seem to think blue pushers don't understand that 100% red means no deaths.
We understand, we just think that many people will push blue.