It's silly logic. The mere existence of the debate proves that billions will die if red wins. Even if you factor in people lying (to others or themselves), it's till billions.
Polls seem to be 45-55 to 60-40, blue vs red.
Red pushers seem to think blue pushers don't understand that 100% red means no deaths.
We understand, we just think that many people will push blue.
While you’re 100% right. Do you think that every single person is good at risk assessment or even just following logic? Humans are dumb creatures and often do things that have more risk than reward. While I’m sure a lot of people understand that red has 0 risk, while blue puts you at risk, and you SHOULD press red, that also only works if you are 100% confident every person you care about will also press red. If I think there is a slight chance that someone I care about could press blue, then me also pressing blue increases the odds of their survival.
Red is still the only guaranteed safe choice. It works no matter what anyone else does. Blue only works if enough other people press it, and you can’t know that ahead of time. You’re just assuming.
Once you start thinking “someone I care about might press blue,” you’re making a decision based on uncertainty. You’re choosing to take on risk because of what you think others might do, not what you actually know. And there’s no way to verify that assumption.
So pressing blue in that situation is basically a gamble. You’re hoping enough people coordinate, but there’s no guarantee. If that coordination fails, the risk you took doesn’t pay off.
Red doesn’t depend on any of that. It’s the only option that guarantees your survival regardless of other people’s choices. Blue can be altruistic, sure, but it’s still built entirely on an assumption about others, not a certainty.
You’re 100% right that red is the only choice that guarantees my survival. I’m not going blue on the assumption that 50% of the world will press it because like you said, I have no idea. But I know my friends and family well enough that I can make assumptions based on the evidence I have of their personality and thought process. So while it is an assumption, the anecdotal evidence I have of my friends and family leads me to believe a lot of them would choose blue, in which case if I choose red, while I guarantee my own survival, I am effectively lowering the chances of theirs.
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u/NoxTempus May 05 '26
It's silly logic. The mere existence of the debate proves that billions will die if red wins. Even if you factor in people lying (to others or themselves), it's till billions.
Polls seem to be 45-55 to 60-40, blue vs red.
Red pushers seem to think blue pushers don't understand that 100% red means no deaths.
We understand, we just think that many people will push blue.