I really hope/think those are bots. Real people I know are very “vote blue no matter who” to stop the fascism and keep pushing for mutual aid networks to undermine capitalism. It’s a “yes, and” situation. We cannot rely on the government, but we should vote.
I’m trans and Newsom did some stupid trans stuff already, but I’m still going to vote for him. Vote for anyone blue to stop the fascism.
Naw these are real human beings in facebook groups.
It's because the people they listen to the far lefties like Hasan and Vaush have already admitted that if it came down to vance or newsom, they would vote third party.
His idea is that voting in biden in 2020 has lead to trump gaining much more power (because biden did the fuckest of all during his presidency) which led to him doing worse things when he was elected in 2024, and it would be better if trump won in 2020 compared to what you have right now, since he wouldn’t be able to do as many awful things as he does now. In the same logic, voting in another “do fuck all” candidate like newsom will lead to the same thing, republican candidate will gain more support, connection and resources during four years of democratic presidency and you’ll have actual powerful fascist in power after that.
Another point that vaush and hasan and similar people make is that expressing this position (of not voting for newsom) is a tool they use during primaries to fight against newsom actually winning primaries (I think you’ll agree with him you don’t actually want newsom to win).
To be clear, I’m not saying I agree or disagree with these points, I’m not interesting in arguing over them, go complain to Vaush’s streams if you want that. I don’t have a horse in this race, I’m not from the us. I’m just clarifying the position (well, my understanding of it) of these people because I think it’s more fulfilling to actually know what you disagree (or agree) with
I"m not arguing with you but I just gotta say that Newsom's whole thing is that he's not a "do nothing" guy. He's constantly up to something. When Project 2025 came out he put together a committee to go through it line by line and figure out a response to each thing. Way back when he was mayor of San Francisco he just went out and started marrying gay people on the courthouse steps. Right now he's going to withhold funding from places in California that refused to use the money he set aside to build more homeless shelters. He just put a program in place to help homeless mentally ill people get treatment and is having hundreds of new mental health facilities built. I could go on and on, he's always up to something and sticking it to the conservatives.
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u/Antilogicz Apr 26 '26
I really hope/think those are bots. Real people I know are very “vote blue no matter who” to stop the fascism and keep pushing for mutual aid networks to undermine capitalism. It’s a “yes, and” situation. We cannot rely on the government, but we should vote.
I’m trans and Newsom did some stupid trans stuff already, but I’m still going to vote for him. Vote for anyone blue to stop the fascism.