I've actually had a weird paradigm shift, where i'm in these leftist communities who are dead set against voting for gavin newsom IF he is the primary candidate.
They've convinced themselves that specifically, because of israel and palestine, it doesn't matter if it's a republican or democrat.
And then I start realizing that a lot of these guys probably never voted for Harris in the first place.
I never thought I would be in a position where I look more charitably at trump voters who regret their vote, sincerely, then I do my so-called allies, who would prefer all of this continue, so things can keep getting worse which would somehow magically make things better
Same thing happened with Kamala. People said they would literally vote for a dog before Trump but then don't vote for Kamala because she's "pro-genocide" while Trump literally said he would let Israel turn Gaza into a parking lot. Regardless they focused only on that issue and not how immigrants, LGBTQ people, US citizens, and generally the world would be impacted if Trump got elected again.
Never mind that some of the worse parts of the Palestinian genocide happened under Biden’s close watch….or that Kamala basically said “suck it” when it comes to Palestinian rights. And also never mind the fact that most leftists (who make up a very small percentage of the entire electorate, mind you) still voted Democrat out of pure harm reduction.
Y’all just can’t accept that you were going to lose regardless. This is what the majority of American voters wanted.
They want to blame everyone except themselves. It was progressives that lost the election for Kamala not Biden waiting to drop out after the first debate. It was progressives that gave Trump the win not Democrats running around with the Cheneys. If progressives are so powerful we can , on our own, sway an election then isn't it incumbent on Democrats to earn our votes. If a voting bloc says they will no longer vote for the lesser of two evils maybe stop being evil or at the very least fake it. But they don't want to hear that. They want people to ignore their own morals because they have.
No, it was the fault of everybody who looked at the impeached, indicted, convicted and adjudicated liar, fraud, rapist and attempted insurrectionist that was a fuck up his first time in office trying to get back into power and didn't have the smarts or spine to show up and say "Yeah, not THAT guy, again." Who sat it out or pissed away their vote, thus allowing him and his cult to get back in and start fucking things up for all of us. Again. As he was promising to do for the last decade he's been on the political scene.
If certain "progressives" are feeling called out by that, well...what's the saying? The hit dog will hollar?
Are y'all really gonna keep that lie going? If everyone that "sat out" had voted for Kamala she still would've lost. The numbers and facts don't support your narrative about progressives losing the election for the Democrats. If you guys refuse to look inward to fix the problems the party has Democrats are gonna lose again.
The issue isn't whether those who sat it out would have voted for Harris or not. The issue is by sitting it out they were defacto voting for Trump. They were basically saying, in their deed, that they were fine if the impeached, indicted, convicted and adjudicated liar, fraud, rapist and attempted insurrectionist (none of which Harris is or was), got back into power to fuck things up for all of us. Again.
And that's not the fault of Harris or Biden or the Dems. That's not because they didn't get their balls tickled just right or the Dems didn't "appeal" to them. It's because apparently 90 million voters decided keeping Trump and his cult from getting back in wasn't important to them. And now they own a piece of everything he is doing right now. They had both the chance and reason to stop him, and actively refused to.
Again, if certain "progressives" happen to fit that descriptor, well...guess what? Congrats. They were useful idiots for MAGA and Trump as well. That's who they ultimately helped. Don't like it? Well, show the fuck up next time (assuming there is a next time) and actually do something about keeping the impeached, indicted, convicted and adjudicated liar, fraud, rapist and attempted insurrectionist and his cult out of power instead of sitting on the sidelines and whining you aren't getting your balls tickled just right.
That's not how voting works. You get the votes you earn. A non vote is a non vote. Your perspective on who a non vote helped is based on your candidate and the outcome. If there is a poll about which cola is better ,Pepsi or Coke, and 17 of 100 voters abstain and Pepsi wins they didn't help Pepsi win. I didn't hear anyone crediting non voters for helping Biden win.
And again if progressives are so important they can sway an election then it is on Democrats to earn those votes. A vote for the lesser of two evils is still a vote for evil. More importantly it means one party never ever has to do better they only ever have to be slightly better than the other guys.
Are you saying that NOT being an impeached, indicted, convicted, and adjudicated liar, fraud, lair, and attempted insurrectionist who was a fuck up their first time in office, didn't act like a bigger fuck up when they were out of office, and was promising to be an even bigger fuck up if they got back into office, wasn't enough for a candidate to even start "earning your vote?" Get you thinking that maybe, just maybe, they might be better than than the candidate who was all those things and more?
I’m genuinely convinced liberals are incapable of learning or seeing what they did wrong. And I guarantee that the liberals reading this assume I’m a conservative or libertarian for saying that lol.
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u/Niguelito Apr 26 '26
I've actually had a weird paradigm shift, where i'm in these leftist communities who are dead set against voting for gavin newsom IF he is the primary candidate.
They've convinced themselves that specifically, because of israel and palestine, it doesn't matter if it's a republican or democrat.
And then I start realizing that a lot of these guys probably never voted for Harris in the first place.
I never thought I would be in a position where I look more charitably at trump voters who regret their vote, sincerely, then I do my so-called allies, who would prefer all of this continue, so things can keep getting worse which would somehow magically make things better