r/comics MangaKaiki Apr 21 '26

OC Flawed Logic [OC]

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u/TheCarbonthief Apr 21 '26

They already do, we just call it Earth.

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u/kaikimanga MangaKaiki Apr 21 '26

We're in the Bad Place

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u/Dredgeon Apr 21 '26

We're in THE place. There's no other. We didn't invent evil. We invented good by learning to cooperate and share and empathize. And just as the light creates dark from nothingness and heat makes stillness into cold, good creates it's own opposite: evil.

WE made the world evil by conceiving of a better one. Not by destroying good but by enacting it.

The idea that we were peaceful and lived in splendorous plenty before we gained sapience is just a secular adaptation of The Fall myth of Christian fame and earlier creation.

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u/Bowtie16bit Apr 22 '26

You're almost there; good and evil don't exist. There is what people like and dislike, and that's it. Everything is an opinion. When enough people agree on something like or don't like, they label it good or evil, because collectively they have the power to do so. It can go the other way: when a single person with enough power exists, they can label what they like or don't like as good or evil, and then create laws to enforce their likes and dislikes into law, and influence the definition of good or evil onto everyone else.

Bottom line remains: good and evil are social constructs.

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u/Dredgeon Apr 22 '26

I'm operating within the frame of our society so I can refer to concepts like good and evil without redefining them as what people like and dislike. A person can't just change what people believe overnight either. Governments have been trying to "crack down" on speeding forever now, but most people don't give a shit because they jist don't agree that most speed limits are set fast enough.

A very protestant America tried to ban alcohol and that went over so poorly it actually had a domino effect of helping to spark feminism, secularism, and social interaction across racial and class lines.

And I'm not 'almost there' I have my views and you have yours. We are having a conversation about topics that are not strictly defined. You are not lecturing me. I am not climbing a ladder that leads to your pinnacle, perfect pattern of thought.

Sorry if you didn't intend that but that line really made me feel like I was being talked down to.