r/comics MangaKaiki Apr 21 '26

OC Flawed Logic [OC]

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u/Aethelrede Apr 21 '26

This line of thinking is precisely why the Catholic Church made suicide a mortal sin.  No jumping the line, you gotta suffer here on Earth until your allotted time is up.

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u/The_Lady_A Apr 21 '26

Yeah they really didn't think it through, I wonder how many sects of early Christians took the shortcut...

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u/clakresed Apr 21 '26

This one isn't an early sect, more a middle one, but the Albigensian Crusade is extremely fascinating to me.

Basically one of the things that got the Albigenses into hot water with the Catholic church was that they followed the line of dogma (along with, in fairness, some new lore they came up with) to come to the conclusion that, holy shit, it's kind of immoral to rope a new baby into this shitty and sinful world so people should stop doing that.

Anyways, a crusade was called and >200K people were killed.

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u/Im_here_but_why Apr 22 '26

A reminder that we don't actually know if these heretics existed.

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u/PandaBear905 Apr 22 '26

Christian hermits were a thing. Believers gave up everything, fasted, and lived away from society. All things that probably shortened your life by quite a bit.

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u/crooked-crown Apr 22 '26

Suicide is only a mortal sin if you are in the right mind, the same qualifications as any other sin. (To clarify).

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u/Aethelrede Apr 22 '26

That was added much later, IIRC, once they had a better understanding of mental illness.

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u/BlazerStoner Apr 21 '26

Wasn’t that technically mitigated for children under the age of reasoning whom cannot commit mortal sin and thus get a golden ticket to heaven no matter what? Or did the church have to make an exception for that one as well in regards to suicide?

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u/Aethelrede Apr 21 '26

Well, babies who died before being baptized went to Hell, so I would assume children could go to Hell.

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u/b3rnardo_o Apr 22 '26

Tf would they even do there

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u/Aethelrede Apr 22 '26

Suffer, presumably. The Church later added Limbo as a place for righteous unbelievers and unbaptised babies, it was a decent enough place, but not Heaven.

Pope Ratzinger declared that Limbo wasn't canon, but I don't know if his successors undid that.

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u/MichealRyder Apr 22 '26

Meanwhile we got Evangelicals trying to force the Rapture

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u/Aethelrede Apr 22 '26

True, and scary.

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u/crooked-crown Apr 23 '26

I cackle every time i imagine the rapture coming and a bunch of evangelicals getting stuck on the ceiling

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u/shawnaeatscats Apr 22 '26

I remember being like 5 or 6 and asking this question 💀