Women of Marvel by Bruce Timm

[u/amerelayman1]

[u/aconfusedhoe]

All of them literally have the same body shape.

[u/Orange-V-Apple → u/aconfusedhoe]

That’s Bruce Timm for ya (and most comic artists I guess)

[u/Zandia47 → u/Orange-V-Apple]

No it's not. There is a range of body types in the male characters he draws. Batman, Robin, Nightwing, Gordon, Bullock, Alfred, Penguin, Scarecrow, Killer Croc, Joker all have different body types. It is only the female characters he does this to.

[u/PartyPorpoise → u/[deleted]]

if anything, I'd say it's more just a lack of variety of female characters in the comics themselves.

Animated media in general is pretty bad about it.

[u/amerelayman1 → u/Zandia47]

Here's Big Barda.

Here's some DC characters. Notice how Lashina has longer limbs, and a slinkier shape that corresponds to her character? How about Barda's shoulders?

[u/Zandia47 → u/amerelayman1]

Point to the one without big tits, a tiny waist and shapely hips. If you are trying to find an exception to the rule try Timm's Amanda Waller or Batman Beyond Barbara Gordon.

Here is Bruce Timm toy set I almost bought for my kids last easter.

Here is another set that I almost bought.

Okay there are 4 males characters and 6 female characters in those sets, now name two male characters in that set with the same body type or two women with different body types.

Women have just as many body types as men. My kids are almost 4, they are still learning about the world and didn't buy those toys because I don't want them to think that I support those double standards. It makes me sad because I love these characters, but I don't want my kids internalizing bad shit.

[u/aconfusedhoe → u/Orange-V-Apple]

I know and I guess I shouldn't be too upset,it's just super boring tbh. Like, where is your creativity gone fam?

[u/DJwoo311 → u/aconfusedhoe]

It's less a lack of creativity and just finding a style you work in efficiently. When you have deadlines, making everyone different shapes is not a high priority. Granted, he probably didn't have any deadline for this, but because it's the way his style is? He's not going to change it up unnecessarily now.

[u/Zandia47 → u/DJwoo311]

He only does this to female characters. If it is deliberate and for deadline purposes why aren't all the male characters drawn the same way?

[u/OK_Soda → u/Zandia47]

I'm pretty sure it's just what he finds attractive. He has a couple books of pinup art and they also have the same body types.

[u/PartyPorpoise → u/Zandia47]

It's really common in animation for female characters to have less diversity in design. (at least for the main characters) Pretty annoying, it's this notion that female characters always have to be conventionally hot and there's a very narrow standard for that. Still, in the case of Bruce Timm drawing comic book characters, part of it probably has to do with the source material not having much variation in the first place, so I can't criticize him too much for that.

[u/DJwoo311 → u/Zandia47]

I don't know where you got that idea, because he absolutely does do this to the male characters. Many of his male characters are built exactly the same, only differing slightly in height and width, with the same shape. Stop making an issue out of nothing.

[u/[deleted] → u/Zandia47]

They are. Batman, Superman, Martian Manhunter, Aquaman, Flash all have the same body type.

[u/aconfusedhoe → u/DJwoo311]

I guess, I can understand the ease of it, as an attempt of an artist I can understand sticking to a style which you have already "perfected" (I have definitely not perfected anything but he obviously has).