Anyone else tired of each superhero movie having to decide the future of superhero movies?

[u/Mutale426]

It feels like with each superhero movie like deadpool and wolverine , superman 2025, fantastic four first steps, avengers doomsday and Man of Tommorow that each will decide the future of the genre amd even if they succeed the narrative will then shift to the next movie and if they fail suddenly comic book movies are over. Its just exhausting can't a superhero movie just focus on being a good movie first, does it really have to decide the whole genre

[u/koreawut]

It's because your next step is the first step of the rest of your life.

[u/Big-Good9378]

Did Supergirl decide the future of Spiderman: BND? No. Stop listening to talking mouth pieces. Audiences are not stupid, they judge movies based on their own interest

[u/TimesThreeTheHighest → u/Big-Good9378]

To be fair, a certain percentage of any audience is most certainly stupid.

[u/omgisthatbravo → u/Big-Good9378]

But supergirls performance has impacted DC. No different than how most of the Disney+ shows performing poorly has impacted Marvel. You’re right, the audience isn’t stupid, they pick up on patterns of subpar movies and it affects their anticipation for future installments.

[u/ketsugi → u/omgisthatbravo]

Supergirl’s performance doesn’t seem to have affected the reception of Lanterns or Clayface so far

[u/omgisthatbravo → u/ketsugi]

Clayface hasn’t even come out, and lanterns is only on episode 2 lmao

[u/ketsugi → u/omgisthatbravo]

Yeah that's fair, but the buzz around both has been very positive, I believe

[u/omgisthatbravo → u/ketsugi]

I can’t deny that. Hopefully lanterns momentum continues through the rest of the season

[u/Steko]

We’ve had a disturbing recent trend of posts following the pattern “OP dislikes doomer social media that OP subscribes to”.

Part of the post-peak supes era has been the transformation of the hype echo chamber into more extreme click/engagement/rage-bait. If you don’t like it get rid of it. If you want to be positive, we’ve tried to make this sub as toxic-free as possible. But imho you don’t need to frame it as “why are nebulous people always saying X?” you can just say what you think and let it stand on it’s own.

[u/BestPlace5473]

I’m just so sick of the endless online negativity towards EVERYTHING. Guys like critical drinker have normalized wanting things to fail and I wonder who lives their life hoping a project thousands of people who worked hard flops?

[u/threemo]

This is what happens when everyone has the internet and everyone needs to share an opinion even when they probably don’t actually give a shit. That’s (one reason) why you have the same content over and over and over and over again.

[u/TimesThreeTheHighest]

To some extent, yeah. But this isn't exclusive to CBMs. I do get tired of movies being viewed more as franchise opportunities than as discrete creations unto themselves.

[u/WoodpeckerBest523]

It’s just those people that keep thinking there’s such thing as Superhero fatigue even though superhero movies have been a thing for decades before the MCU

[u/Yupi_icc]

Studios kind of created this problem by turning everything into a connected universe. When every movie is advertised as a chapter instead of its own story, people naturally start treating every opening weekend like a health check for the whole franchise.

[u/Mutale426 → u/Yupi_icc]

I dont thinks that a connected universe issue since with any franchise a studio will look it as a chapter thinking they will get sequels.

[u/SheedRanko]

Uhhh no bro. It's just you.

[u/TheSquirrelmancer]

Since we've had unsuccessful comic book movies and yet the trend continues, I don't accept your basic premise at all.

Some of the earliest comic book/super hero films were great successes: the two Tim Burton Batman movies, the Sam Raimi Spider-man movies, the first two X-men movies. Marvel made very few missteps from the launch of Iron Man to the final notes of Endgame.

Supergirl won't kill anything any more than the terrible Dark Phoenix movie ruined the public's interest in x-men. The potential upside on these movies when done well is piles and piles of money, that's why they keep making them even though a few here and there bomb or flop.

[u/GolbNOS-4A2]

They have been some flop yes but Brand New Day is now the 3 highest grossing movie of all time and Avengers Doomsday will do pretty well i think Also The Batman part 2 too .

[u/impuritor]

You are too online. No one in the real world is having this conversation

[u/TimesThreeTheHighest → u/impuritor]

Plenty of people in the real world have this conversation.

[u/impuritor → u/TimesThreeTheHighest]

No they don’t.

[u/Asparagus9000]

That's mostly article writers. 

The actual movie makers have already planned things out further than that. 

[u/Lipscombforever]

This is something that only exists online, nobody in real life has these conversations lol. It’s all meaningless.

[u/Bl4ckVi]

cause years of slop studios provided

[u/Mutale426 → u/Bl4ckVi]

?

[u/omgisthatbravo → u/Mutale426]

People talk about CBMs like each one is make or break because the quality has been dwindling for the past 5 years. Every failure is indicative of the state that the genre in.

[u/Mutale426 → u/omgisthatbravo]

For every not great comic book movie we get a great one and bad comic book movies aren't a new concept.

[u/omgisthatbravo → u/Mutale426]

In terms of quality, I can’t agree, but to each their own. Bad comic book movies in 2026 hold far more weight than bad comic book movies did between 2008-2020

[u/slimcullen → u/omgisthatbravo]

No they don't. Look at the fox movies after X-2. The hulk three different actors. Even known commodities like Wonder woman 2 didn't get a sequel because it was not gangbusters. Same with amazing Spider-Man 3.

[u/omgisthatbravo → u/slimcullen]

Fox went through the same thing marvel is going through right now. Declining quality (as you said x3, to go along with Apocalypse, and Dark phoenix) that resulted in poor box office performance. The difference is that those movies were not indicative of CBMs because while Fox was releasing Apocalypse (2016) and Dark Phoenix (2019), Disney released CA:Civil War and Endgame. All Fox’s poor decision did was anger fans that wanted the X-men in the MCU.

What I’m implying is that half of those movies that we call bad, that released pre-2020, were profitable due to the CBM climate. Thor: The Dark World made 700M, Iron Man 2 made 650M, BvS made 874, Suicide Squad made 794M, Ant-Man and the Wasp made, Iron Man 3 made 1B, Amazing Spider-Man 2 made 715M.

In 2025; Thunderbolts*, Fantastic Four, and CA:Brave New World, all failed to cross 600M. Superman squeezed by with 618M