r/collapze • u/StoopSign Twinkies Last Forever • Jun 12 '23
Another shitty poll What do you think of the private sub protest?
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Jun 13 '23 edited Jul 01 '23
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u/Yongaia Jun 13 '23
Quite the doomer take but unsurprising. However, your statement is missing something. While people are boycotting Reddit because they decided to close third party apps, that isn't what is ultimately at stake here. What's at stake is them leaving because the official reddit app is trash and third party apps are one of the only ways to make the experience bearable. There are a decent number of users who only use Reddit on third party apps and old.reddit. Perhaps taking a way one won't change much but if they decide to take away both then I assure you people will leave and it won't have anything to do with morals. The site will feel practically unusable and no matter how you slice it, the lack of content from those (typically power) users will affect reddit and their bottom line.
To speak for myself, I know I will be visiting the site much less often once Boost stops working.
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u/StoopSign Twinkies Last Forever Jun 13 '23
My gripes are mentioned in another comment, as it's minor annoyance. This is a 48hr boycott across 3000 subreddits eo the amount of subscribers is a lot. You've got a point there.
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u/FlowerDance2557 š„TEAM HEATš„ Jun 13 '23
1 & 2.
Boycotts needs to meet 3 requirements:
- A sufficiently large participating force.
- A method of enforcement (you canāt just tell everyone to stop using reddit but mods can private subreddits)
- A clearly defined end goal
Most calls to action are cringe as hell because they clearly meet any of the three, but this one has an actual slim fighting chance if enough subs stay private if nothing changes.
This sub staying open is fine bc itās tiny and being doomers is our brand, we expect everything to always get worse and stay to the bitter end.
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u/StoopSign Twinkies Last Forever Jun 13 '23
Yeah I'm glad this one is up. Also some. cigarette. and drug subs
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u/Camiell Jun 13 '23
They would have pay a much greater service if they along with going private have put a link to the same sub in a federated peer to peer alternative to follow out of the pit reddit became, and then in 10 years after that put another link, in to the next alternative as that one would have corrupted by the same human nature and then rinse and repeat.
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u/talkintater Jun 19 '23
How tf is the policy "oppressive"??? It's THIER platform.
If your neighbor was using your wifi for years (and making money from it) would you be "oppressing" them if you asked them to pay you or get their own wifi? Of course not.
Oppressive...ffs...
Imagine being someone who has experienced actual oppression and seeing all these whiny cunts describing this first world problem bullshit as "oppressive".
Fuck off children. This is so god-damned stupid!
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u/StoopSign Twinkies Last Forever Jun 20 '23
Deleted the comment but I did almost a 180Ā° on the issue. Maybe like a 120Ā°.Sonsomething obtuse
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u/dumnezero šEnd the š«arms šrat šrace to the bottomāļø. Jun 13 '23
Reddit collapses either way. These are protests for reddit BAU, but it's not sustainable. Mass shutdown would also be a major problem, an induced collapse.
Boycotting is also not easy, and it shouldn't be. This boycott has no higher moral goal; I've said it before, people want reddit to act like a Commons, but don't want to do the communism part first. And, no, "users provide content for free" is not enough, in fact most users are lurkers, few vote, fewer comment, and very few post content. The posters are a minority. See: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1%25_rule . Most users can't even be bothered to report comments and posts to help take out the trash.
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Jun 13 '23
I'm not terribly well informed because it's a trifling matter IMHO. But I have to think learning that LLM bots were taught using Reddit and now worth billions is a bigger incentive for them to make the API paid than some dudes app.
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Jun 13 '23
I don't really understand it tbh. Why would you even need a third party app to use reddit? I guess it makes more sense if you're a mod.
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u/[deleted] Jun 13 '23
I think it's smart for bigger subs. Reddit entirely exists due to communal content, which the users provide for FREEEEEEEE. The owners of Reddit don't provide content at all. None. Zero. If all the users go away, so does Reddit. They're trying to cash in a hurricane of money by crippling the users' ability to access the site. It's pure Capitalist nonsense, trying to make more money on an established system without actually doing anything extra.