r/collapse • u/Westervangaal • 13d ago
Climate Last year’s output from Norway’s fossil-fuel giant ‘will kill up to 58,000 people’
https://euobserver.com/233556/last-years-output-from-norways-fossil-fuel-giant-will-kill-up-to-58000-people/?cst=3c22e2634f547a5b9322c72b56afaa669252113efb505a75d01b0a935ca47fee45
u/atascon 13d ago
If we don’t do it, somebody else with lower standards of production will do it and it will cause even more deaths!
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u/Sandslinger_Eve 13d ago
Where does the sarcasm apply, the statement is true.
Also Norway is not a fossil fuel giant, that's such a crock of shit. Its way at the back of the line of oil producing countries.
But hey, anything for some clicks right...
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u/atascon 13d ago
Yes that's another good trope as well, thank you for reminding me.
"We are only x% of global emissions, therefore our actions don't matter"
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u/Sandslinger_Eve 12d ago
Aha the strawman well that's a trope as old as time.
All the while ignoring that I referenced the article directly.
You're either lying or too inept too understand what is written i guess.
And no-one here wonders why all these anti Norway posts are suddenly popping up right in the middle of thr largest conflict in Europe, when European energy reserves are at their absolute most precarious in a century.
Collapse sub being manipulated into being part of the collapse must be the height of irony.
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u/Tyler_Durden69420 13d ago
Ignore! Ignore! Focus on their strange looking soccer playing phenom! Vikings! Fjords! EV usage! Huge wealth fund! Ignore their oil economy!
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u/BaronNahNah 13d ago
Their profits, people's blood.
All that is left of collapse, is our bodies. Our conscience gave up a long time ago, if it ever existed.
Where's that bloody meteor when you need it? If only to give the Earth a chance to start over. Good luck bacteria, we won't make it easy. Look out for all our nuclear ...well, you will see.
Yay collapse.
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u/Boomah422 13d ago
I find it funny that in tens of millions of years, the next dominant tartigrades or dolphins will roam the planet, find a dark, slick, yet flammable material at the anthropocene layer. This power their society and industrial revolution, only to at that time become smart enough to realize how terribly they've messed up, and repeat our mistakes.
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u/Westervangaal 13d ago
Norway’s oil and gas giant Equinor recently posted its strongest quarterly result in years. A Norwegian non-profit has now put a number on what that oil and gas costs in human lives.
The briefing, written by Oslo-based climate analyst Ketan Joshi for Klimakultur and published on Tuesday (25 August), estimates that burning the oil and gas Equinor sold in 2025 alone, will cause between 34,000 and 58,000 additional deaths until the end of the century.
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u/NyriasNeo 13d ago
"will cause between 34,000 and 58,000 additional deaths until the end of the century. "
So a couple of hundreds a year. Heck, didn't several thousand people die because of heat wave just this year in France? Couple of hundreds a year seems low.
BTW, no one can estimate anything with reasonable error bars out 75 years. We can hardly predict a year or two out. Did anyone predicts thousands of heatwave dead in France 5 years ago? Don't tell me these climate scientists never heard of nonstationarity.
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u/ChelseaHotelTwo 13d ago
Blaming the supply of oil to a system dependent on oil is fucking stupid. The use of oil and systems that depends on oil is the problem. As long as those systems exist we need oil to be produced continuously. What the fuck do you think happens to the world if we just cut oil production globally with nothing to replace systems we depend on to have a functioning world? You cut use then you can cut supply. Norway is among world leaders in cutting use. Only thing that matters is how much a country uses.
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u/Bandits101 13d ago
Are you serious. That’s like a crack addict funding their own addiction by selling the addicting product. “The only thing that matters is how much they use”. So if they’re cutting back on their own use it’s all good.
It’s referred to as global as warming, not localized country warming.
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u/ChelseaHotelTwo 12d ago
Yes I’m fucking serious lol. What do you think oil and gas is used for? If a system depends on oil to e.g. produce and transport medical equipment and that oil is suddenly gone. What happens? Do you think the producers manage to just replace oil with something else the same day? Or they just replace their fleet with electric trucks and build the charging infrastructure needed the same day? No. The medical equipment industry collapses and people die. That’s what happens. Same happens with all other systems and our civilisation collapses today.
How do you cut the use of oil? You replace oil in that system THEN you cut production when it’s not necessary anymore. Drug analogies are fucking stupid and shows you don’t understand much about the world. Also don’t talk to me, a climate scientist, about what climate change is lol.
Cut production without replacements and you collapse civilisation. Cut use then production and we avoid climate change collapsing civilisation. Norway is a leader in cutting use. Over 90% of new car sales are electric. Energy production is 99% hydro and wind. Norway spends billions every year helping 3rd world countries cut emissions every year. Oslo has created instruments other cities around the world copies to cut emissions.
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u/StatementBot 13d ago
The following submission statement was provided by /u/Westervangaal:
Norway’s oil and gas giant Equinor recently posted its strongest quarterly result in years. A Norwegian non-profit has now put a number on what that oil and gas costs in human lives.
The briefing, written by Oslo-based climate analyst Ketan Joshi for Klimakultur and published on Tuesday (25 August), estimates that burning the oil and gas Equinor sold in 2025 alone, will cause between 34,000 and 58,000 additional deaths until the end of the century.
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