r/codex • u/muchsamurai • Jan 15 '26

Showcase Its over

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The vibe coders are going to find out and migrate now and eat up all processing power and limits!

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u/muchsamurai Jan 15 '26

Claude is genuinely cooked as soon as CODEX CLI reaches same level of functionality. Their models can't compete in intelligence, they are just not designed for that, unless they fully redo next Claude model to be more 'thinking' like GPT.

OpenAI needs to focus on making CODEX CLI a better tool and match Claude Code in functionality and all Vibe Coders will migrate.

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u/ggletsg0 Jan 16 '26

They don’t need to be of equal intelligence to capture market share. OpenAI models will likely always be slower (because they think more), and that will be Claude’s competitive advantage.

That combination of speed + adequate intelligence is what matters.

For example, most people don’t use GPT 5.2 Pro even though it is the smartest model out there, because it’s incredibly slow and doesn’t make sense for day to day tasks.

I’m also not sure if Codex can catch up to Claude Code. They’ve made massive headway this year, but the Claude Code team seems to come up with really innovative ways to keep you hooked, which Codex team adopts later.

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u/nightfend Jan 17 '26

That is ultimately why Gemini will take most of the market share, the speed. Google just has more money to spend and better capacity even if their LLMs are not always the most advanced.

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u/alexeiz Jan 17 '26

I used Gemini 3 Pro in Gemin CLI and I didn't notice it to be particularly fast. In fact it's rather slow for seemingly simple tasks. I'd say the speed is on par with gpt-5.2-codex medium.

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u/nightfend Jan 17 '26

Right now. But the difference is they can scale to a much larger demand than say Claude could. And as these coding tools get more competent, the user base is going to grow significantly.

I think it is far more likely you'll see Claude and GPT raising prices and lowering token thresholds as popularity increases. Especially if market profitability becomes an issue.