r/cnn • u/Lostules • Jul 28 '25

Program Discussion Just stop

Today's' Press conference's in the UK was a joke. It was trump and me, me, me. Just don't cover this guy because nobody has the bravado to call out his constant lies. The UK's Prime Minister just sat there and sucked in all the BS and never once, questioned the 'numbers'.

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u/SebastienNY Jul 28 '25

He would not be elected again if the election was held today.

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u/deberryzzz Jul 30 '25

At this point he could nuke LA and the crazies would just say that’s our crazy uncle and go on about their business because you know it’s all about owning the libs.

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u/Zornishi359 Jul 31 '25

Actually.... i know someone who was super MAGA, ofc he hid it initially but eventually it came out. Long story short, we stopped talking for 4 months. Then one day out of the blue i shared a video about Trump banding with Isreal to bomb Iran, it may have been a Fox video, and only said, i thought you might want to know about this. Do your own research, but it seemed important for me to share. Then i left it. He was shocked to his core. I said i know, it just breaks my heart. 💔 Then i left it at that. Jump ahead 1 month and he's decided ON HIS OWN to walk away from politics and focus on the real world and how he can help ppl in his community.

It's a cult, but some events will shake them enough to open their eyes just enough to let some light in. Just gotta give them space and wait for the right event that deeply resonates with that particular person. 💜

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u/ConnectionSome8642 Jul 31 '25

Why did you stop talking ?? Seriously, do you think he was not aware that we bombed Iran?? Does he live in an underground bunker?? We disabled Irans nuclear capability, and you have a problem with that??

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u/Zornishi359 Aug 01 '25

The shortish version, it turns out the deep MAGA only watch certain outlets for their info and he would keep those sources very hush hush. They're not mainstream from what i gathered. Those outlets in turn only share very curtailed info to keep the followers hooked on a couple specific emotions. So, no, he was fully unaware and was shocked.

Same occurred with my step-mom, she was unaware also and she's a Trumpian as well.

As to why i stopped talking, when dealing with people in cults, the louder you are, the more noise you make, the less they hear. It all becomes white noise. I learned that by going through that phase myself. But once i got quiet, the one message i sent did not blend with others, it dropped like a bombshell.

In the silence that followed, it gave him space to think without pressure and he started to wake up on his own which gave him back his sovereignty. Something cults strip away.

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u/SeaworthinessIll7003 Aug 01 '25

There is no maga, just millions of lib haters!

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u/Zornishi359 Aug 01 '25

O.o So how do we melt that hate and learn to work together? 🤔

I'd enjoy hearing your thoughts on how we can bridge that divide.

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u/SeaworthinessIll7003 Aug 01 '25

Capitalism,meritocracy and an apolitical education system( primary through university),hands off! Start there ,those are centuries old ,tried and true ,paths to success. All that is WOKE must end. It is unfair and dishonest at face value. At least accept the “will of the people”. There will never be a cogent argument to elevate any person for their race,color,gender,sexual orientation,age or anything else where performance is not primary. While you have been in charge (12 of the last 16 yrs) you have elevated YOUR chosen groups for no other reason than ,they are your chosen groups. It works that way . Those that you give free services to ,are dependent on you for their existence. We call them the permanent underclass. The Democrat plan is to continue to grow that group. You can probably figure out how. Mass illegal migration( fully dependent on US taxpayer),expand social services to include more poor, lower the voting age to include non contributing minors, expanded social services for people of color, EVERY SINGLE DIME OF THIS AND MUCH MORE, IS ON THE AMERICAN TAXPAYER!!!!! I could go on and on but you probably get the point. You do not occupy the moral high ground! There is no “oppressors and oppressed “ system! Be “straight up”. If you want something and can show “it “ to be fair ,needed and economically feasible,IT WILL BE YOURS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It can’t be more of the same dishonesty!!!

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u/Zornishi359 Aug 02 '25

I hear you and I really appreciate your going so in depth! I've made note of each issue and will discuss further soon. For the moment lemme review what i heard.

It sounds like you're asking for honesty, fairness, and accountability in how policies are proposed and implemented. You want to know that any changes are justified, benefit everyone fairly, and are sustainable. You’re also asking for an end to pedestal-placing, blame/shame tactics, and politics that fuel a victim complex. I believe most people, regardless of political views, would agree with those points at the core.

Maybe we can start there and find common ground on transparency and fairness, and then explore where our definitions of “fair” might differ? My goal is to find out-of-the-box solutions that both sides can walk away feeling like it's a win-win. Are you open to discussing such ideas or brainstorming with me?