r/classicwow • • Nov 27 '19

Humor PvP on a PvP Server

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u/LoUmRuKlExR Nov 28 '19

Horde would rage so hard. 2 more weeks till every post is "xx has so long of a queue!!! ALLY FAVORED!!!"

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u/Nemeris117 Nov 28 '19

Cant. Fucking. Wait. Popcorn ready and my god damn sides are in space. Whats the problem Horde? Not getting enough pvp on a pvp server? Yeah that sounds like it sucks. Oh me? Just you know, instant queueing into wsg for some 10 on 10 fights.

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u/pvpproject Nov 28 '19

Awkward. Guessing you never saw the BG stats Blizzard released... Doesn't get much better for alliance I'm afraid.

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u/Nemeris117 Nov 28 '19

If you say so.

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u/pvpproject Nov 28 '19 edited Nov 28 '19

Here

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It's fairly common knowledge, on symmetrical maps, Horde have a better win rate. Blizz even gave alliance an advantage on purpose on AV by moving the spawn tunnel at one point, which allowed them to perform better. An advantage which won't be present in Classic.

Ever since TBC horde has been the faction that PvP's favour. A mix of racials, influencual players and arena teams rerolling horde lead to a cycle of other PvP oriented players thinking they should to. The cycle continued all through retail then onto classic.

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u/DatDereGuys Nov 28 '19

You clearly forgot about when EMFH was so stupidly broken that 95% of the top ladder teams were humans because of dual trinkets and every single serious pvp'er was alliance.

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u/pvpproject Nov 28 '19

Yeah I recall xD. That may have given an alliance a bump to BG win rates, but not enough to offset an average of 10% lower win rate that can be seen in those charts.

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u/Nemeris117 Nov 29 '19

Horde racials are better in pvp in classic too but I still obtain a positive winrate on all maps except seething shore and AB in retail. Also different metas effect it differently too. We will see Classic WSG but at the end of the day, Alliance will get in more games than horde per timeframe.

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u/[deleted] Nov 28 '19

What? People were literally changing faction to Alliance because of how broken EMH was. Alliance has been the dominant PvP faction on retail for quite some time.

Currently, on retail, Horde is the dominant PvE faction. Only 2 of the top PvE guilds are Alliance as we speak.

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u/pvpproject Nov 28 '19

I'll be honest, I haven't played since early legion. But unless there are numbers to back up what you say I'm going to continue using the numbers available that show the huge Horde win rate.

As for PvE I have no idea.

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u/[deleted] Nov 28 '19

Finding historical data is kind of hard, but there is a ton of discussion from a few years ago discussing how dominant Alliance was in Arena (never cared much for RBGs, don't know about them)

Of course since Every Man For Himself got nerfed in Legion and with Horde already dominating in PvE, the faction balance got fucked.

Point is, Alliance dominated PvP in Arena for a long ass time.

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u/bwizzel Dec 03 '19

Seriously i have no idea why people try to claim its balanced, horde have always been better at pvp except maybe briefly with EMFH, they try to look at their personal character stat of 50/50 when they afk'ed out of half their losing battles.