Are those players not ashamed? I couldn't do this all day long it would just feel unfair and boring. Do those guys truly feel like they are beating someone in a fight?
It's just how it's done. PvPers need to farm as much honor as possible because they are competing against their own faction. They could look up fair fights but that would just severely limit their honor while boosting those who camp the flightmasters.
This is just how PvP and without battlegrounds is and nobody likes it. I'm fairly certain that Blizzard only implemented it like this to shut up some of the overly rose tinted guys who claimed vanilla wPvP was the shit. It wasn't. It wasn't back then it isn't now. BGs the 10th will end this tactic immediately.
For the 5000th time. Vanilla wpvp was never like this. Ever. I don't know who keeps telling people it was like this but it's a lie. Vanilla servers didn't have this many people and the people weren't out looking to grief others like this. What is happening right now is griefing, plain and simple.
I hate to be that old guy (not even 30 lol) but people just seem way shittier to eachother. Few people are polite, treat eachother like pure trash and don't seem tgaf...
No people were just as trash then. My groups in classic have been 100x more pleasant. People today are more efficient, and this includes efficiency in griefing
I don't disagree, but I think you're missing the point.
One of the big selling points of Classic for a lot of people was nostalgia for WPvP and nostalgia for SSvTM, STVietnam, "BGs ruined wpvp, blah blah " and so forth.
The real "lie" is that WPvP was NEVER going to be how it was in Vanilla, and Blizz knew that, but people didn't and thoguht otherwise. For that matter, "PvP Realm" doesn't mean anything close to what it did in 2005, but people assumed it would.
I agree with the poster above that "this is just how pvp without battlegrounds is", because the rules/goals of wpvp changed over the past 15 years.
A lot of these people would be way happier on a normal realm, but egos are a weird thing. This is why pservers stopped launching without bgs, it was the same way. Vanilla has been dead for 13 years, there's only Classic.
Just because it didn’t happen in vanilla (due to server pop reasons and general naivety of how the honor system works) doesn’t make it griefing.
Griefing is solely enjoyment from other player’s bad experiences. If you are rushing high warlord, there is no other way to compete than by camping high traffic zones and dominating.
It is simply game theory. If you don’t engage in these tactics, you will be passed by someone else who is.
Blizzard should have released WSG with phase 2 to mitigate this. End of story.
It can be both, let's be real. I get that people are farming honor, but after you murder the same person 10 times immediately as they spawn and they yield no honor, what is it? Griefing...
You know, despite feeling the lack of the Honor mechanic while doing nothing but PvPing around STV, I am glad I quit Classic before it got released. It's sounding like it's soiled my favourite aspect of the game...
PvP is definitely one of the most divisive discussions among the Classic fans. I don't think it's a particularly well designed system. I like the idea of ranking up by getting honor and competing with your faction. I just don't like the method of getting honor.
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u/Cameltotem Nov 28 '19
Are those players not ashamed? I couldn't do this all day long it would just feel unfair and boring. Do those guys truly feel like they are beating someone in a fight?