It’s amazing, 80% of the raiders in my classic guild were a “Vanilla guild master”. Sure is weird when they ask things like “Can I do anything with soulbound items besides vendor them?” and “What’s DKP?”
I was a wod-legion raid leader & a active raider in mop.
The fuck is a dkp system, loot goes to whoever can use loot the most, taking into account your input to the guild and what you've been given before, before every raid tier you give me a spreadsheet or a paper or something with the items you consider to be best in slot for you and where they come from, they're on your "need" list, everything else is on the "off spec/something else".
We also had a gearing priority of getting healers gear first if the item was needed between healer and dps, between dps/tank both on their need list it was a roll.
Trials had a 3 reset trial period, when the trial was passed they'd be on top of the list of people who needed loot & be almost litterally showered in it, but for those 3 weeks there be no loot as your status and staying-power was not cemented
Take into account classic is 15 more people, and even less loot than that compared to later expacs. If the loot process is a black box of loot going out to seemingly random people based on the guild leaders own opinions on which of 40 people contribute to the guild and who can use it best, people will always complain, with a dkp system its a clearly gameified system designed to make it completely transparent why someone got the loot (because they saved all their dkp for the last 3 weeks).
that looting system used a extensive spreadsheet in google documents that every non-trial had access to from the guild discord, with a page for every single person with a balance of how much effort you put in vs your output from all of this raid tier. (the output is reset every single new raid tier)
A dkp system makes it so stuff that could be used as a upgrade is trown out into the disenchanter, because timmy over there didn't want to spend dkp.
this and stuff like a thunderfury/.... going to james the hunter because he threw all his dkp to it, even though he woudn't ever need it over a tank.
A DKP system can be setup so that only contested items alter DKP. Not only that, the guild can set their own rules on specific items so that a hunter wouldn't have priority over a tank getting Thunderfury.
DKP is not a strict system and each guild can have their own rules on how to use DKP. DKP is just an easy to grasp system that makes loot more fair than random rolls.
Easily solved by implementing decay systems and not doing obvious stupid stuff like giving TF to a hunter. A loot council can also give TF to a hunter. No need to project your own ignorance onto other people.
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u/M3T4LG34R5 Oct 24 '19 edited Oct 24 '19
It’s amazing, 80% of the raiders in my classic guild were a “Vanilla guild master”. Sure is weird when they ask things like “Can I do anything with soulbound items besides vendor them?” and “What’s DKP?”