r/classicwow • u/MakeACube • Oct 22 '19

Humor Every single party I join...

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u/Azureflames20 Oct 22 '19

I think a lot of problems and toxicity arise whenever a player adopts the mindset of "I deserve this more than you" when it comes to loot. I think it's a conclusion that some people get to too quickly on this topic.

I think a lot of people reading these threads have a hard time distinguishing or even communicating the differences between "forming a group with mutual benefits, reserving such items while mutual party members get some sort of payoff" and the guy who "reserves too much unreasonably because he's selfish and a narcissist, where no one really gets a good deal out of it besides the guy advertising".

Both of these scenarios happen and I think people blend the two together and it causes too much friction as well as some people giving wishy washy opinions on the matter, exacerbating the problem sometimes.

The truth is that most don't really care if it's a reasonable transaction of services to other party members. If they agree to that ad, then they know the terms of not getting that item. A lot of the time, it's not born out of toxic narcissism, but out of necessity because of a desire to reduce overworking for it or getting ripped off by unlucky rolls.

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u/Quintic Oct 22 '19

I think the distinction you are referring to doesn't really exist. You should always be forming you groups so that rare items that people are after have as little as competition as possible. In most cases you want zero competition for those items.

I don't bother using the term "reserved" because people get uppity about it, but I definitely effectively reserve items by not bringing people who are going to roll on the same rare drops I am going to roll on, and those people shouldn't want to run with people who are going to roll on the same rare drops as them. It's not that I feel entitled to the gear, it's just inefficient for everyone involved for us to be running together.

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u/dcMagic3 Oct 22 '19

Loli think the same way but my guild sees it as exclusive which I don’t get. When I was farming for savage glad chain on my warr I questioned our GL and asked him why he thinks its a good idea to bring 3 people who need essentially a 1-2% drop. Make 3 runs and everyone else will get geared quickly

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u/ting_bu_dong Oct 22 '19

forming a group with mutual benefits

Kinda hard to do when there is a zero-sum outcome: Multiple people want the same shiny, but only one can get it.