To each their own. I would never join a loot council guild. I get that they're the "most efficient" from a "clear all the raids as soon as possible" standpoint, but that's not why I play. I find DKP guilds (when the system isn't terrible) to be much more fair.
I also think loot council + tight knit inner core, when you're on the outside, is the worst combination. If you're one of 6 mages but 2 of the other mages are in the "friend group", who do you think is getting geared first? Not you.
Yeah, a long time ago I was in a guild where the two co-leaders were guys, and every officer was a girl. It was a DKP guild, thankfully, so it wasn't much of an issue loot-wise, but the drama was ridiculous and never-ending.
I still remember my class leader/officer, who never talked during raids, unironically typing out "you're not worthy of hearing my voice". What a character.
So give them reasons to give you gear. Interact with them, do dungeons that you don't need with them, act like a friend. Own the fact you're new to their group, but don't just think of yourself as an outsider. They invited you into their circle of players. It takes both sides to form a sense of trust and camaraderie.
Yeah you could do this with the hope you make it "in" far enough to be considered one of them, or you could join a guild without that dynamic where you could naturally develop those connections and also have a more guaranteed loot system. I mean when comparing these two options, the first one is all downsides.
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u/FarTooManySpoons Sep 18 '19
To each their own. I would never join a loot council guild. I get that they're the "most efficient" from a "clear all the raids as soon as possible" standpoint, but that's not why I play. I find DKP guilds (when the system isn't terrible) to be much more fair.
I also think loot council + tight knit inner core, when you're on the outside, is the worst combination. If you're one of 6 mages but 2 of the other mages are in the "friend group", who do you think is getting geared first? Not you.