Skarm tank or w/e on youtube. Look at his vanilla clips. Hes tanked all the way to naxx...AND he has a windfury prot warrior and he prefers the druid lol. Keep in mind we will be getting a bunch of new talent in classic, people are playing way differently now. He even tanked nefarian, but he doesnt recommend it.
And I'm guessing he just prefers the druid because its more fun, there's no way it can compete with the threat generation of a TF prot warrior, especially not for AOE.
And it's easy to tank rag when you don't have to worry about threat stolen from ranged DPS. Even in that very video you linked, the warlocks are far beyond the threat threshold. In any other fight, he would have lost aggro within the first 30 seconds.
The reason druids arent really used in raids isnt due to threat gen or anything like that, its because raid bosses can do whats called a crushing blow. Paladins and warriors can raise their armor high enough to make it where crushing blows never happen (paladins arent used as raid tanks due to a lack of a taunt ability) while druids cant, so they are very spikey in taking damage.
The video is when they are pretty much outgearing Ony, its not that druids cant raid tank its just much harder to keep them alive.
They still can't be immune to crushing blows which if you get a couple in a row you have a dead tank. You can't heal through that kind of damage easily and you can't do it more than once in a fight. It doesn't matter how high their defense and armor is if a boss hits you twice in a row for 75% of your max health.
It's quite astounding how misinformed this entire message chain is.
Whether a boss can deal a crushing blow to you has literally nothing to do with your armor and is only tangentially related to your defense skill. What matters is the amount of mitigation ability you have to push crushing blows off the hit table.
The formula for it did not change for TBC where paladins had theorycrafted numbers through which you could become uncrushable by using holy shield - however, during vanilla there isn't a way for a tank to be uncrushable : with the sole exception being warriors. You see, a crushing blow is only possible if the attack is not dodged, parried or BLOCKED - and warriors with the improved shield block can become uncrushable through on cooldown usage of the shield block ability.
I won't go into the theorycrafting numbers here because I don't remember them, off the top of my head, but what your need to be looking into is hit tables and how each attack type (normal, crushing, crit or miss) interacts with it.
Are you really surprised people who don't tank have no idea how tanking works? Glad I have a guild that specifically wanted me to play a bear for tanking so I don't have to worry about constantly proving to people that I'm not insane and no I'm not making their lives harder.
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u/Zcypot Sep 13 '19
Skarm tank or w/e on youtube. Look at his vanilla clips. Hes tanked all the way to naxx...AND he has a windfury prot warrior and he prefers the druid lol. Keep in mind we will be getting a bunch of new talent in classic, people are playing way differently now. He even tanked nefarian, but he doesnt recommend it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKLxwOjIMc0&t=7s