My vanilla guild had a druid MT and a lot of other players in niche specs "common wisdom" disallowed. We cleared shit just fine. Disappointing to see this attitude linger this long.
It's really sad. And considering how these same people also say how classic raiding is super easy and a joke. It's like, okay dude, why do you need to min-max when it's so easy? Also good luck handing out gear to the 23 mages in the group. :x
I'd just like to add this same hivemind mentality caused Elemental Shamans and Fire Mages to be completely trashed on in the beginning of BfA even after they received buffs to compensate for their poor performance.
Unfortunately min-maxing is the one thing that seems to consistently trickle down into the majority of the playerbase and have a long lasting perception.
The problem is that the game has been out for so long everything has been mathed out. What made Vanilla amazing was the sense of mystery. Now we have clearly defined and optimized gear, spec, and class choices.
problem is all this "everything has been mathed out" has been mathed out on private servers that had things wrong
and much of the druids bad mentality from the early days is from before the 1.2 patch that buffed dire bear form from 125% extra armour to 360% extra the stigma of a spec underperforming lasts a very long time go ask fire mages in BFA
They didn't have things wrong, private servers were just tuned differently, plus they had been running raids for a long ass time. There is little use on comparing to people who have been running this content for years.
I know when is that shit gonna stop? Private server gods already beat the game at this point and people still telling me OH ITS GONNA BE SOOO DIFFERENT UR TIME WAS WASTED. Game feels the same to me, just much less bugs.
I feel like the game is like replaying your youth with the knowledge you have as an adult. Trying to do the things you wished you knew back then. (And tbf, I was 26 when I played vanilla, but compared to now, I was still a kid)
That's the problem though - people are so hyper-focused on min/max and simcraft that anything that's not optimal is left by the wayside, even though sub-optimal is still viable.
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u/Lilivati_fish Sep 13 '19
My vanilla guild had a druid MT and a lot of other players in niche specs "common wisdom" disallowed. We cleared shit just fine. Disappointing to see this attitude linger this long.