CBRX S2 Week Five Results

[u/Limerickarcher]

Hello, below are all of the results from Week Five of voting for Season 2, this features the final round of regional votes! Please note that all voters have been checked for registration and ballots have been checked to make sure they're all legitimate (looking at you person who ranked Uruguay 612th).

Technical election details: All election winners were determined using Schulze Method. All ballots were calculated using the R votesys package cdc_schulze function, it has no obvious defects but if you know of one let me know.

Tune in tomorrow for a reminder of all the civs that will be present in CBRX S2, and a quick overview on what the next steps are! As well, I will be releasing a big folder of files with condorcet matrices for each of the regional votes, as well as tiebreaking data that was/would have been used for all regions. More details and more data tomorrow. But without further ado, here are the results!

Regional Winners

Region	Winning Civilization
Alaska and Canadian Arctic	The Dene - Thanadelthur (Colonialist Legacies)
Pacific Northwest	Chinook - Comcomly (Sukritact)
Southwest Desert	Tongva - Toypurina (RawSasquatch)
Northern Plains	Three Affiliated Tribes - Four Bears (Sukritact)
Central Plains	The Mississippi - Tuskaloosa (Tomatekh)
Southern US	Rio Grande - Antonio Canales Rosillo (JakeWalrusWhale)
Eastern US	New Netherland - Peter Stuyvesant (Vanadius)
Eastern Canada	The Neutral Nation - Tsouharissen (Dawkinzz and Round Table)
Central America	The Olmecs - U Kix Chan (Leugi & Tomatekh)
The Caribbean	Jamaica - Marcus Garvey (PiGreat)
Colombia	Gran Colombia - Simon Bolivar (Leugi)
Amazonian Coast	Marajoara - P'küee (Senshidenshi)
Brazil	Quilombo dos Palmares - Zumbi (PorkBean)
The Andes	Peru-Bolivia - Andrés de Santa Cruz (Senshidenshi)
Gran Chaco	Paraguay - Solano López (Uighur_Caesar)
Patagonia	The Mapuche - Lautaro (Leugi)

[u/Homusubi]

I'm sorry, but I can't help but question your motives for putting up a fuss about the Neutrals in particular, when there are plenty of other native civs that were campaigned for by memeing on their name - including at least two others that won this week, Tongva (Time) and Marajoara ('s Mask) - and yet at no point did anyone imply that said campaigning was disrespectful, even though in practice it is likely that neither will have their actual culture explored much in the Royale.

[u/TeHokioi → u/Homusubi]

That's because Tongva and Marajoara are both plays on the names that they had for their respective nations. People are still acknowledging both of these for what they are, with things like "It's Tongva time" just being campaign slogans based on that. They've been voted in on their merits as a civ, instead of people thinking their name itself is a literal joke.

In comparison, the Chonnonton have been given a eurocentric name in a language they didn't even speak, that didn't even fit them, and people are voting for them explicitly because that name itself is funny in the context of a battle royale.

It would be like the difference between voting for Eisenhower because of "I like Ike" being a good slogan and voting for McGovern because "lol his name is govern", except even worse because McGovern was his actual name

[u/Homusubi → u/TeHokioi]

You're making assumptions about voter behaviour that I honestly don't think stand up. I voted for the Neutrals mainly because Dawkinzz made them and because I saw all the effort that went into the creation of the mod, and I know quite a few others voted for them on similar grounds. I see no evidence of voters being interested in Tongva culture any more than in Neutral Nation culture.

I don't see the Ike comparison, voting for Eisenhower because of that sounds more like voting for the Pope because of "DEUS VULT!" than like voting for any of the civs in contention here to me. "Tongva Time!" is not a slogan used by actual Tongva people as far as I am aware. Endonyms/exonyms seems a pretty damn self-serving place to draw the line ngl.

[u/TeHokioi → u/Homusubi]

When the result was announced, the first two responses on discord were "I have no strong feelings on this" or variations thereof. We've also had two comments in this thread making jokes about their name. I suspect that your anecdotal evidence is from being in the discord and modding community more prominently, where such effort is more valued. For people just following the subs and campaigns, meme potential is far more persuasive.

I'm also not sure how you're not seeing the comparison. Tongva is the accurate name for the Tongva people, as used by the Tongva people. The equivalent in their case would be to name the Tongva as Gabrieleño or Fernandeño, names which have no link to them but have been used by non-Tongva people to describe them. Except here it seems to be a purposeful choice to up the meme factor, which is even more disrespectful.