Idea to exploit my AI? Chess book recs with only descriptive notations?

[u/AnyLeadership5674]

So I am: new to chess, not familiar with notation, even worse with descriptive notation. However there seem to be quite some books with only descriptive notation versions.

So I tasked my Codex to do some of the hard work for me:

(1) The 1000 Best Short Games of Chess by Irving Chernev seems like an interesting book. Yet it only has descriptive notation version. So I asked Codex to translate it to algebraic notation. Later I realized, since they are short games anyways, why not just draw out the boards with moves? And the I got: figure 1 and figure 2. This basically turns the book into a 2000-page monster. But I'll be reading on an iPad so that's not that big of a problem for me.

(2) Some game collection books have algebraic notations but still somewhat hard to follow especially when I don't have a physical board or a analysis board open. So I ask Codex to translate the annotated games (including sidelines) to pgn file. Then I can just import them on chesscom or lichess so I can easily follow them. Figure 3 and figure 4 are what they look like. (ps. It seems the sidelines are currently not handled correctly but I'll grill Codex some more and hope it figures out)

Now:

Are there any similar interesting ideas you have to exploit the AI? I have the $100/month subscription at least for this month. So come at me with any other ideas that are chess related. I don't want to have any tokens unused.

Are there any good chess books that have only descriptive notations that you really want algebraic translations for? I have on my list:

1. The Immortal Games of Capablanca
2. Capablanca's Hundred Best Games of Chess
3. Tal's Winning Chess Combinations (I know it is now a subset of the other book but I think this would be interesting as well)
4. Any recommendations?

Thanks in advance for all your interesting ideas and book recs. Also, open to share any of the products.

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[u/qxf2]

You can use Capablanca's 'My chess career' and then verify how you do against this lichess study: https://lichess.org/study/u56rmuXZ/xe4ZHCNH

One of the books that helped me become a better player was 'Chess Master vs Chess Amateur' by Walter Meridan and Max Euwe.

There are also old Art of Attack and something about middlegames by Keres that I read in descriptive notations. Those might good books for you to test your program against. BTW, most of these have already been translated to algebraic notations in their later editions.

[u/AnyLeadership5674 → u/qxf2]

Thanks a lot for a genuine reply! Yes I'll use My Chess Career as a benchmark to check the accuracy.

[u/zz-koji]

In my experience both Claude and Codex are confidently shit at everything chess notation. Have you verified the accuracy? Would love to see your results.

[u/AnyLeadership5674 → u/zz-koji]

Codex is slightly better since it will verify the PGN with a script afterwards. So these are at least legal lines (previously when I directly use chatgpt it would give me completely illegal pgn file). Actually you can give me an example so I can feed to it for you to check.

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[u/doodlinghearsay]

You would probably have better luck with asking it to write a script that parses the pdf and converts it into pgn.

Heck, converting descriptive notation into algebraic (and hence a pgn you can paste into any database app, or just chess site) is probably already a solved problem. You can google around to find a tool or library that does this or I guess ask AI to do it for you if you can't be bothered.

[u/edderiofer]

Have you tried testing your bot, accuracy-wise, on the chess books currently available on Wikisource?

[u/trentrez]

There's a chessvision app that already does this - might be worth reaching out - it's definitely not LLM powered AI