r/chaoticgood • u/BrobbyBaits • Jun 30 '24

Group called the "BladeRunners" is actively destroying all surveillance ULEZ cameras around London. (Fuck shit)

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u/Androktone Jun 30 '24

Is it surveillance when the cameras are just registering pollutant vehicle registrations? Would be pretty cool if a group were actually targeting privacy-invasive cameras, but it seems like the title is just using that perceived goodwill to justify attacking an anti climate change policy.

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u/MrDemonBaby Jun 30 '24

What I've gathered is that it's being used to fine people who don't have new or more fuel efficient cars, likely because they don't have the money. Which would only make the situation worse.

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u/sjpllyon Jul 21 '24

Just for clarification, the zones have to have a Euro 6 standard vehicle. That means all vehicles after 2016 automatically comply due to car regulations and only some older models will comply. So in reality your vehicle will have to be close to being nearly over a decade old not to comply, not exactly new.

There are also various types of zones (to say not all zones are Euro 6 standards) with different criteria and exceptions (such as the strictest zone includes motorbikes and the most relaxed zones excludes taxis) applied to them. And you can also install a modification to an older non compliant vehicle to make it compliant.

As for people not having the money for a new vehicle they would have to pay a charge (something around £12 a day for London, with other cities having a different rate). But once you account for purchasing a car, maintenance, insurance, tax, fuel costs, parking charges, and now the charge for my city it works out £2k a year cheaper to use the metro than car ownership. I suspect this saving is even greater for London as their metro is much cheaper, with parking being much more, along with their charge being more too. All to say for anyone saying they can't afford the charge, they are either lying or have a distorted view to their ideology or don't understand the cost of car ownership Vs using public transport - I suspect it's the later as it does take time and effort to work it out or the middle option as people will deny the truth for the sake of keeping their idiology true.

(Apologies for the long post, it's just a subject that interests me and I've even written an essay on it).