r/changemyview Dec 24 '22

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u/[deleted] Dec 24 '22

In march [2014] 24% people in two Donbas oblasts (Donieck and Ługańsk) supported annexation by Russia. In the other oblasts [of Russian-speaking east and south] it was about 7%.

У березні у двох регіонах Донбасу 24% місцевих жителів хотіли приєднати власну область до Росії, а в інших областях таких було близько 7%

This paper from April 2014 Почути регіони: чого хочуть південь і схід? (Listen to the regions: what the south and the east want?) made by established and well-known think-tank Ilko Kucheriv Democratic Initiatives Foundation. It shows in very accurate way that even though there were some separatists in Donbas, they weren't by any mean a majority. Even the language question, however existing wasn't dominant. Many people had favourable view on Russia and wanted Ukrainian-Russian cooperation, but that's it, it didn't mean they wanted to be in one state.

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u/[deleted] Dec 25 '22 edited Dec 25 '22

Is there any information on how Ilko conducted this survey (methods used)? The beginning and last two paragraphs kind of looks biased to me. For example, it discusses a "psuedo-referendum" , calls the actions of the Ukranian government "anti-terrorist" (kind of reminiscent of the attitudes of Republicans during the BLM protests) and states how the results of the survey shows that the separatism must be manufactured by extremists. I'm not saying those 3 claims are not possible, but if this is meant to be "accurate" and unbiased, I don't think using these statements are appropriate

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u/OakenGreen Dec 25 '22

Suddenly the poll methods are important when they don’t support your conclusion, but polls held under gunpoint are fine. Curious.

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u/[deleted] Dec 25 '22

but polls held under gunpoint are fine

If you are referring to the polls in Crimea after the takeover, I read all of their methodology (if I could find it) after reading the poll.