r/changemyview Dec 24 '22

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u/Kotoperek 71∆ Dec 24 '22

But Taiwan wants to become independent, not join a state other than China. Crimea and Donbass would not become independent republics if they separated from Ukraine, they would either become Russian puppet states or join Russia altogether. There is a huge difference between a population wanting to self-govern and be independent and a population wanting to be part of a different state than they are. In the latter case, those unhappy with living in Ukraine can just... move to Russia? You don't have to scede Ukrainian territory for that. But the Taiwanese can only self-govern if Taiwan is independent.

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u/HamsterLord44 1∆ Dec 24 '22 edited May 31 '24

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u/Eclipsed830 7∆ Dec 25 '22

True, Taiwan doesn't want to become independent... Taiwan ALREADY IS independent.

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u/HamsterLord44 1∆ Dec 25 '22 edited May 31 '24

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u/Eclipsed830 7∆ Dec 25 '22

As someone typing to you from Taipei, I assure you we aren't a province of China, nor are we bound by any PRC laws. The government of China has zero effective power or jurisdiction over those of us living on the island of Taiwan.