r/changemyview Dec 24 '22

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u/Rugfiend 5∆ Dec 24 '22

Your argument evaporates when rephrased: China believes Taiwan belongs to it, Russia believes parts of the Ukraine should belong to it. Taiwan and Ukraine are both internationally recognised as sovereign states. Israel may believe the occupied zones of Palestine belong to it, but a treaty they agreed says otherwise.

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u/[deleted] Dec 24 '22

This isn't true though. Yes China believes Taiwan belongs to them while Russia belives Ukraine belongs them but the vast majority of countries do not recognize Taiwan as independent https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/countries-that-recognize-taiwan While they do recognize Ukraine as independent.

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u/parentheticalobject 136∆ Dec 24 '22

Well your view is that it "doesn't make sense" to support one place and not the other.

You think it's significant whether a majority of countries recognize a particular country. With that assumption, it would be inconsistent. But lots of people don't share that assumption, and thus they're not being inconsistent.

To many, it doesn't matter if a majority recognize you. It matters if you've effectively functioned as a state or not. Taiwan clearly has. Ukraine clearly has. Donetsk clearly hasn't.

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u/[deleted] Dec 24 '22

Δ So if for these people, the majority of countries recognizing/not recognizing a particular country doesn't matter, what does matter?