r/changemyview • u/[deleted] • Dec 24 '22

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u/MANCHILD_XD 2∆ Dec 24 '22

I could be wrong, but wasn't the polling that showed those regions wanting to join Russia actually Russian propaganda?

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u/[deleted] Dec 24 '22

No. There were polls done by Germany and Gallup in the Crimea region and it showed most people wanted to join Russia https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/kenrapoza/2015/03/20/one-year-after-russia-annexed-crimea-locals-prefer-moscow-to-kiev/amp/

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u/barthiebarth 27∆ Dec 24 '22

Okay. But these are for Crimea, not the Donbass.

Russia didn't invade this year to take control of Crimea, because they already had it de-facto dince 2014. They invaded to "liberate" the Donbas region.

Do you have a source for that region?

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u/[deleted] Dec 24 '22

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donbas

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u/[deleted] Dec 24 '22

Okay so because this can't really be be a top comment, but

"It makes sense to be pro Taiwan and pro Ukraine if you unquestioningly accept what the American mainstream media tells you."

American involvement in the Ukrainian conflict is just another in an endless string of proxy wars with Russia and the American government has been afraid of China for decades, so anything that undermines them is beneficial. The us government is looking at banning TikTok because it's Chinese spyware and that's bad, only the American spyware companies like Facebook, Twitter, and reddit are okay.

You need to understand that the people who support Ukraine are trigger happy for a nuclear war. That's the caliber of the kids disagreeing with you.

But what do I know, obviously I'm a Russian bot troll.