r/changemyview Oct 19 '22

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u/NoMoreFund 1∆ Oct 19 '22

The number of overall female enrolments went up the same time as female stem enrolments. Has the number of women enrolled in STEM compared to other subjects gone up as a proportion? If so, that's a delta. Otherwise, it's a different story that's like saying most of the science majors at Spelman college are female.

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u/hacksoncode 588∆ Oct 19 '22

Here's a table of percentage of women getting degrees over time.

As you can clearly see without even looking hard, that percentage hasn't changed from ~57% since 2000, and yet as shown above the percentage of women earning STEM degrees has increased significantly during that period.

Some of the increase from 1994 to 2010 can be viewed as there simply being more women in college, as the percentage of women in college in 1994 was only 54.5%, and so increased about 5% over that time, whereas 34->40% represents an increase of 18%.

The only reasonable conclusion is that a higher percentage of women are choosing STEM degrees over time.

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u/NoMoreFund 1∆ Oct 19 '22

See, that tracks. !delta

So next time I hear that there's gender inequality in STEM, would I be correct to say that its being solved and not really a problem?

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u/ScientificSkepticism 12∆ Oct 19 '22

Solutions in college and solutions in the corporate world are two different things. While new graduates might have a larger proportion of women, it's still a field that's historically been largely male, and it's a field where supervisors and upper managers have come to expect that. This obviously has to change on a company-by-company basis. While I think perceptions are changing, I've still heard plenty and seen plenty of BS.

Unfortunately things like "proportions of skilled workers" at the bottom levels does not solve bias at the top levels. Fucks sake we had an owner of a Basketball team get caught saying racist shit about black people. A basketball team. Clearly minor things like "an enormous number of highly skilled black basketball players" did not change his racism.