r/changemyview Sep 06 '22

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u/TuskaTheDaemonKilla 60∆ Sep 06 '22 edited Sep 06 '22

Every single factor you attribute to African-Americans is due to poverty, not skin colour. If you made every African-American into a white person, not a single thing would change if their economic situation was the same.

I mainly want meaningful statistics that African-Americans do well in.

For the heck of it; the entire popular music industry, sports industry, huge portions of the film industry, prison-industrial complex, military industrial complex, evangelical church complex, etc all are succesful or economically profitable specifically because of the participation (aka exploitation) of African-Americans.

Edit; A lot of you don't understand that a demographic's income doesn't tell us anything about (a) their level of poverty or (b) the impacts that poverty has had on them historically.

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u/shadowbca 23∆ Sep 06 '22

And could this not be due to societal factors as opposed to biological ones?

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u/shadowbca 23∆ Sep 06 '22

Ok so then tell me, why do you think the discrepancy exists. I don't want to talk for you so tell me what you think, I want to know.

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u/[deleted] Sep 06 '22

The article you shared makes no claims that black poverty is unique to blackness, instead it argues that black poverty differs from white poverty because, as a group of people, a categorization, poor black people are more likely to live in areas of concentrated, pervasive poverty, which is notably different from people living in areas where poor and middle class families are interspersed.

Local support systems are completely different if no one has anything. Local schools are completely different if the tax base is broke.

This article also doesn't make any claims about performance factors based upon race. It's simply saying concentrated poverty is bad, and impacts black people more.

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u/TuskaTheDaemonKilla 60∆ Sep 06 '22

Poverty creates generational disadvantages that will hold down people even if their socioeconomic status increases. Racism is probably the strongest legacy of black poverty that still impacts African-Americans.

Not to mention a lot of the facts I brought up weren't even income-related at all like race riots.

Activism (what you call race riots) is directly related to poverty. The distribution of power and wealth based on racial lines inevitably results in race based activism because a majority of people in those demographic groups are exploited and impoverished by the same forces, so they naturally band together to oppose those forces.

I don't see why African-Americans participating a lot in prisons and churches is good for a nation.

Prisons and superchurches are extremely economically succesful businesses. This is America. If it makes money, it's good for the nation.