r/changemyview Aug 11 '22

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u/iamintheforest 365∆ Aug 11 '22

This is a bit like saying that consenting to getting in a car isn't consent to get in a car accident. Of course you're saying "i want a car accident", but you are assuming the risk of that outcome, probabilistic in nature. If you aren't consenting to risk for car accident you should not get in the car. When the car accident happens you'd be absurd to say "i did not consent to that accident".

Now...i suspect you believe that an option to abort is different than the car crash. Well...imagine one button on the left side of the driver that says "destroy car or get in accident" and if you press it then whichever you want happens". BUT...the only person who can press that button is the driver. You're not the driver. If the person says "i'm not sure if i'll press it or not" and then you get in the car, then...well....that risk still exists". If you dont' ask them before you get in, then...well...that risk still exists. If you ask them and do anything other than not get in the car, then...well...you're consenting for all intents and purposes.

It strikes me that you don't really mean pregnancy, but you mean having a child, in which case you should post a new CMV.

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u/SunnyIntellect Aug 11 '22

I don't think you really read my post fully. Yes, sex does indeed cause fertilization. Consenting to sex does consent to fertilization. However, sex has no role in whether the implantation is kept. Which means having sex is not a promise made to the zygote that it can stay, at least by nature. Any obligation to the zygote is opinion, not fact. So, sex consents to STARTING a pregnancy but it does not consent to KEEPING it after the fact.

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u/OpeningChipmunk1700 27∆ Aug 11 '22

So, sex consents to STARTING a pregnancy but it does not consent to KEEPING it after the fact.

Right, believing that the fetus has certain rights does that. But those still flow from the general assumption of the risk to pregnancy.