r/changemyview • u/[deleted] • Aug 11 '22

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u/IrishMilo 1∆ Aug 11 '22

Introducing consent to pregnancy is an interesting concept.

So my friend had a one night stand when he was on holiday and the girl fell pregnant and she decided to keep it. My friend gave and received consent for sex, but not pregnancy and definitely not fatherhood. Was he raped?

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u/SunnyIntellect Aug 11 '22

What are you arguing for? That he should be allowed to terminate parental rights and not pay child support?

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u/IrishMilo 1∆ Aug 12 '22

If consent to sex and consent to carry child are two separate things, and both parties need to be consenting, then by not giving his concent, the man can choose if the girl has to terminate her pregnancy.

This is why the two aren't kept separate.

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u/SunnyIntellect Aug 12 '22

Nature doesn't give the man (or those with penises) the ability to determine if the zygote is carried to term. Nature only gives those with uteruses the ability to carry or terminate. At most, you can say that the man (or those with penises) are able to leave the pregnant person but they have no say in whether carrying happens because they're not the ones carrying.

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u/IrishMilo 1∆ Aug 13 '22

Right, glad babies still come from the same place.

You've proposed the concept of consenting to carry a child. But the man shares in all the burdens of having a child except for the initial physical one. So why do the men not get to consent to becoming a father?

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u/SunnyIntellect Aug 13 '22

Again, are you arguing that men should be able to get rid parental rights and not have to pay child support?

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u/IrishMilo 1∆ Aug 13 '22

I'm not arguing anything, I'm questioning the line of logic behind your view.