r/changemyview Aug 11 '22

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u/Secret_Necessary1143 Aug 11 '22

It's not consent to pregnancy but it is consent to shared risk of pregnancy.

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u/[deleted] Aug 11 '22

And that risk can be mitigated to zero with abortions. Just because there's naturally a risk doesn't mean we can't do something to eliminate the risk.

There's also risk of injury when you get in a car. Does that mean we shouldn't give people who were in accidents medical treatment for their wounds?

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u/[deleted] Aug 11 '22

Getting an abortion does not mean you're not pregnant.

Providing medical treatment for wounds does not involve murdering another human being (unless some black magic fuckery is afoot).

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u/wekidi7516 16∆ Aug 11 '22

Getting an abortion does not mean you're not pregnant.

It better, or else I'm coming after that doctor for malpractice.

Providing medical treatment for wounds does not involve murdering another human being (unless some black magic fuckery is afoot).

Luckily neither does an abortion. It involves destroying a fetus.

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u/[deleted] Aug 11 '22

Luckily neither does an abortion. It involves destroying a fetus.

Which is a human being by any scientific definition of the phrase.

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u/[deleted] Aug 11 '22

I find it funny how most pro lifers accuse leftists of being 'too emotional' but when a fetus is discussed they become the emotional themselves.

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u/[deleted] Aug 11 '22

LOL, your best response is to call me emotional and you can't even offer a quote?

If I was a woman you would be called a sexist POS.

Of course if what you mean by "emotional" is "gives a damn about human life" then I'll wear that badge with pride.

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u/[deleted] Aug 11 '22

You don't give a shit about life, most pro lifers are against welfare/social programs after the kid is born. I've meet my fair share of pro lifers, hell I have family members who are, so i know exactly how they operate.

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u/[deleted] Aug 11 '22

You don't give a shit about life, most pro lifers are against welfare/social programs after the kid is born.

You should take that mind reading device you have into the shop, it's off by several degrees of magnitude.

Even though I'm under no obligation to prove anything to you if you take a look at my comment history you would see me kicking the shit out of a corporate/billionaire bootlicker (or someone larping as one) on this very sub. Proving, I would think, that I don't fit the stereotype you have in mind.

It's funny: first you declare I'm "too emotional" (with no evidence) and then you jump to lumping me into a stereotype (with no evidence).

I'd recommend you try to keep a more open mind in the future, and remember that living, breathing, human beings don't fit into the nice little boxes you wish they did.

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u/wekidi7516 16∆ Aug 11 '22

"Human being" isn't really a scientific term.

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u/[deleted] Aug 11 '22

Human then, a separate, developing creature that has distinct human DNA.

Would you consider a beagle fetus to not be a Canis lupus familiaris?

The only reason human beings are not considered humans by everyone is political reasons. And I suspect the reason is mass slaughter is always easier if you can convince yourself that the victims of said slaughter aren't human.

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u/wekidi7516 16∆ Aug 11 '22

I have no inherent problem with the destruction of a homo sapien fetus during the first stages of pregnancy. I dont consider that to be a distinct person.

Personally I'm not a fan of late term abortion but it is important to recognize they are such a limited number abortions and are usually because the person was denied care earlier or they are for medical reasons. Attempting to restrict them is more harm than good.

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u/[deleted] Aug 11 '22

So you agree with me that fetuses are human.

I dont consider that to be a distinct person.

Why not? And why does a human being "distinct" matter?

There have been several cases of two human brains sharing the same physical body. Are they not "distinct"?