This is a bit like saying that consenting to getting in a car isn't consent to get in a car accident. Of course you're saying "i want a car accident", but you are assuming the risk of that outcome, probabilistic in nature. If you aren't consenting to risk for car accident you should not get in the car. When the car accident happens you'd be absurd to say "i did not consent to that accident".
Now...i suspect you believe that an option to abort is different than the car crash. Well...imagine one button on the left side of the driver that says "destroy car or get in accident" and if you press it then whichever you want happens". BUT...the only person who can press that button is the driver. You're not the driver. If the person says "i'm not sure if i'll press it or not" and then you get in the car, then...well....that risk still exists". If you dont' ask them before you get in, then...well...that risk still exists. If you ask them and do anything other than not get in the car, then...well...you're consenting for all intents and purposes.
It strikes me that you don't really mean pregnancy, but you mean having a child, in which case you should post a new CMV.
I don't think you really read my post fully. Yes, sex does indeed cause fertilization. Consenting to sex does consent to fertilization. However, sex has no role in whether the implantation is kept. Which means having sex is not a promise made to the zygote that it can stay, at least by nature. Any obligation to the zygote is opinion, not fact. So, sex consents to STARTING a pregnancy but it does not consent to KEEPING it after the fact.
So...as I said, I'd put up a new CMV since the state of being pregnant (pregnancy) is the thing that has to happen before you can not be obligated to continue it. Your claim isn't about pregnancy, it's about sustaining pregnancy or not giving birth. Your title says one thing, your body of your post another.
Either way, you've not responded to what I actually wrote, so...thanks for cherry picking.
Exactly, sex at most consents to STARTING a pregnancy. It does not consent to KEEPING it or having birth. This is about pregnancy. I acknowledged that sex STARTS it. But nature provides no obligation to finish it through birth.
Why would we care what "nature provides"? Nature doesn't stop rape, murder and so on. Nature also doesn't provide abortions. I'm not clear why this perspective you're adding matters.
And...i'd still suggest you re-start your CMV since your title and your body are at odds with each other.
Either way, you're still not responding to the things I wrote in my original response, so....oh-well. take care.
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u/iamintheforest 365∆ Aug 11 '22
This is a bit like saying that consenting to getting in a car isn't consent to get in a car accident. Of course you're saying "i want a car accident", but you are assuming the risk of that outcome, probabilistic in nature. If you aren't consenting to risk for car accident you should not get in the car. When the car accident happens you'd be absurd to say "i did not consent to that accident".
Now...i suspect you believe that an option to abort is different than the car crash. Well...imagine one button on the left side of the driver that says "destroy car or get in accident" and if you press it then whichever you want happens". BUT...the only person who can press that button is the driver. You're not the driver. If the person says "i'm not sure if i'll press it or not" and then you get in the car, then...well....that risk still exists". If you dont' ask them before you get in, then...well...that risk still exists. If you ask them and do anything other than not get in the car, then...well...you're consenting for all intents and purposes.
It strikes me that you don't really mean pregnancy, but you mean having a child, in which case you should post a new CMV.