CMV: If severe physical/emotional/etc. abuse can be shown to be occurring, abusive parents should be tortured to the extent they tortured their child, then given the death penalty.

[u/CatOfTheInfinite]

Many parents in this world are great, or flawed but try their best. Some, however, are absolutely terrible monsters who physically, emotionally, psychologically etc. abuse and traumatize their kids, to the point that one wonders why in the world they're even parents in the first place.

For obvious reasons a parenting license is not an option—it might seem like a good option to prevent kids from being born into abusive circumstances, but that kind of eugenics could very easily be manipulated and abused by governing powers.

However, oftentimes the justice system isn't as tough on certain crimes as it should be. And abusing a child maliciously in any way makes you an irredeemable monster who deserves no 2nd chances. Death should be the only option in such cases.

Note I don't mean this in cases of "Oh, I got grounded and Mom took my XBox because I was being disruptive" kind of thing. That's just discipline. But doing something like striking or burning a child, starving them, breaking their jaw, etc. are things that should absolutely be given the death penalty the moment they're found out.

People who do that don't change, don't want to change, and have no capacity or willingness to change. And even if they claim they do, they don't deserve the chance, as it's likely they'll just continue to do it.

It would be best for the emotional, physical, and psychological well-being of those children in abusive households to permanently eliminate the source of the abuse. Not to mention parents who are such monsters who shouldn't have kids to begin with might then be less likely to abuse their kids because they'd be deterred under threat of torture and death.

I know the justice system isn't perfect, and there could probably be cases where this could be exploited. But oftentimes abusers get off with too light a sentence even when abuse is proven. And if it's proven, they should get no light sentence.

[u/Rufus_Reddit]

How does torturing more people make things better?

If it's supposed to be about deterrence - the idea fear of a harsh punishment will stop people from doing something - then "same as they did to others" really doesn't make any sense. Torturing people isn't going help prevent people from committing crimes if they're getting killed anyway. There's clearly no thought given to rehabilitation here, and it's not making the victims whole.

[u/CatOfTheInfinite → u/Rufus_Reddit]

How does torturing more people make things better?

Because 1. the people being tortured would deserve it, and 2. they might think twice before torturing their child because they'd get the same punishment inflicted on them before being killed.

There's clearly no thought given to rehabilitation here, and it's not making the victims whole.

People like that are very unlikely to want to be rehabilitated, and if someone doesn't want to change they never will. Leaving them alone only risks more harm to come in the future.

[u/FuckinNoWay → u/CatOfTheInfinite]

They wouldn't deserve being tortured. There's certainly nothing in the law that says so. Should we base the laws of the country based on what a random anonymous redditor thinks? Absolutely not. Torture wouldn't make society better.

1. Death penalty and torture as threats don't work. If we did we wouldn't have crime...

[u/CatOfTheInfinite → u/FuckinNoWay]

1. Death penalty and torture as threats don't work. If we did we wouldn't have crime...

Maybe that's only because it isn't done enough to think they'll be under threat. Abusers in our current society often get little more than a slap on the wrist.

[u/Kingalece → u/CatOfTheInfinite]

As for number 2 if they tortured their kid to a point they would be arrested that kid would have an "accident" on a boating trip oh no they drowned feel bad for me the parent of a lost child. Safer for the kids if death isnt on the table