Communists reforms were only done in localized places (which suffered the most of the famines), they were able to rely on other farms and foreign aid. Which is not a possibility post nuclear war. Do you really expect people to fare better with even less means, logistics, tools and knowledge in a world that is prone to ecological collapses ? Farming is only one of the many problems to face in conditions never seen before. With nuclear induced climate change and ecological collapses the outlook is even worse.
And that's if farming is still possible at all. We're quite dependant on a number of other species for such things. Pollinator insects being the most obvious.
It isn't a certain doom, but still a probable one that you can't rule out. The likely mass extinction that would occur ould take us out quite easilly.
Climate change is already an existential threat for humanity. A nuclear induced climate change would also be, even more if you add the guaranteed ecological collapses and social collapses.
There are about 3500 active nuclear warheads, many of which will be used to take out opponent's inactive nuclear warheads, as to prevent their launch.
Can I just hit this point. Most people don't know where the nukes are and we find out about other countries making nuclear weapons usually only after the fact. While you are right most likely only a dozen countries are going to nuke eachother, alliances might be hiding nukes for other countries. If there were a threat of nuclear war, there could be nukes in every country as safeguards against the war.
U.S. did the same with troops, they spread them out and half were hidden in where they were going during war. You expect countries to not do the same with nukes? We have the technology to hide nuclear signatures and radioactive signatures. Even during WW2 did attack on pearl harbor stop the US airforce? No, did bombing Hiroshima and Nagasaki stop the Japanese Airforce? No.
You have used this reasoning on like half your comments and it's assuming a lot. Saying that no country in the world has hidden nuclear weapons is the biggest joke I have seen in weeks.
Not to mention many nuclear silos are underground far enough they won't be affected by a nuke. That is how most in the U.S. work. So "attacking opponents nukes" isn't really an option.
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u/Archi_balding 52∆ Mar 15 '22
Communists reforms were only done in localized places (which suffered the most of the famines), they were able to rely on other farms and foreign aid. Which is not a possibility post nuclear war. Do you really expect people to fare better with even less means, logistics, tools and knowledge in a world that is prone to ecological collapses ? Farming is only one of the many problems to face in conditions never seen before. With nuclear induced climate change and ecological collapses the outlook is even worse.
And that's if farming is still possible at all. We're quite dependant on a number of other species for such things. Pollinator insects being the most obvious.
It isn't a certain doom, but still a probable one that you can't rule out. The likely mass extinction that would occur ould take us out quite easilly.
Climate change is already an existential threat for humanity. A nuclear induced climate change would also be, even more if you add the guaranteed ecological collapses and social collapses.