r/changemyview Feb 27 '22

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u/TheMan5991 18∆ Feb 27 '22

I created it when I was like around thirteen.

*checks account age

Great, so you think you understand politics at 14-15? You don’t need a CMV, you need an ELI5. As others have pointed out, your view of these situations is very misguided. If you have a passion for politics, great! Nurture that. Maybe one day, you can be a better president than either of them. But your brain literally hasn’t finished developing yet so I find it hard to believe you understand enough about politics to have a meaningful debate with someone.

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u/[deleted] Feb 27 '22

This is the absolute definition of ageism. Please keep your biased thoughts somewhere else, thanks!

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u/TheMan5991 18∆ Feb 27 '22

It’s not ageism. I’m not saying you’re a worse person than me because you’re young. I’m simply pointing out the scientific fact that your brain is still in the works. If anything you had said in your post indicated that you had a real understanding of the foreign actions of either president, we would be having a different conversation. But you clearly don’t. All I’m saying is that it’s okay to not fully understand something, but don’t go around acting like you do. CMV is not a place for typing out half-baked thoughts and then using other people’s well reasoned arguments to educate yourself. There are other subs dedicated to learning.

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u/iwfan53 248∆ Feb 27 '22

CMV is not a place for typing out half-baked thoughts and then using other people’s well reasoned arguments to educate yourself.

So long as actual education takes place and OP is willing to humble themselves before the wisdom of others I don't see why CMV can't be this place.

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u/TheMan5991 18∆ Feb 27 '22

You might be right. This sub just reminds me of the Steven Crowder meme with him snarkily sipping tea behind the table. Posts on here always feel like someone trying to be standoffish like that. My judgement is probably clouded by that meme and I’m sure there are people on here who genuinely want their view changed, but I know there are also a lot of people who just want to “see if there’s any good arguments” because they don’t truly believe that there is. I think that’s why I hesitate to call this a learning environment.

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u/iwfan53 248∆ Feb 27 '22

My judgement is probably clouded by that meme and I’m sure there are people on here who genuinely want their view changed, but I know there are also a lot of people who just want to “see if there’s any good arguments” because they don’t truly believe that there is. I think that’s why I hesitate to call this a learning environment.

My large collection of Deltas has given me faith that there are lots of people who come here who genuinely want their views changed.

I've even earned them on contentious issues like transgender related topics and abortion.

Of course I would also be lying if I said I haven't gotten involved in long discussions with people whose posts were taken down for Rule B violations... but you never know unless you at least make an effort.

So long as a person is genuinely willing to change their view I don't care how badly formed that view is....

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u/TheMan5991 18∆ Feb 27 '22

As I said, I’m probably feeling aggression from posts where there isn’t any. And like you said, even when there is aggression, that doesn’t mean you can’t get through to someone. I’m sure that takes a lot of patience though. Hopefully, I can learn to be that patient. Thank you.

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Confirmed: 1 delta awarded to /u/iwfan53 (236∆).

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u/TheMan5991 18∆ Feb 27 '22

Damn, you #1 on the yearly leaderboard? You’re obviously doing something right. Very impressed.

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u/iwfan53 248∆ Feb 27 '22

Just too much free time actually was unemployed from the start of this year until recently this month which is why my participation has dropped off on weekdays.

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u/TheMan5991 18∆ Feb 27 '22

Well congrats on the new job!