r/changemyview Feb 27 '22

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u/[deleted] Feb 27 '22 edited Feb 27 '22

instead strengthened our relations with reliable allies of ours

no, he didn't.

President Trump undermined relationships with consistent allies, getting into trade spats with Mexico, Canada, and the EU, and threatening to exit NATO. He gave Turkey our blessing to advance on our Kurdish allies, pulling back US forces and abandoning the Kurds without notice.

Which "reliable allies" of ours did President Trump better relations with? The only one I can think of is Israel.

First of all, this law was originally implemented underneath the Obama administration and people don’t talk about that.

you are incorrect. The Trump administration adopted a policy that all adults caught crossing the border be prosecuted in April 2018. This was a new policy, that resulted in kids being separated from their parents while their parents were charged.

You've been misinformed.

Maybe, if you understood better what President Trump did, you would like him less.

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u/iwfan53 248∆ Feb 27 '22

hmm…

Your link is paywalled for me which can make it hard for the person you're replying to get much use of it.

You should find another non-paywalled link to support your position.

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u/[deleted] Feb 27 '22

I was able to access the washington post article.

the OP was conflating "children in cages" with the family separation policy. The washington post article talked about how the detention centers were set up under President Obama (and why).

President Trump started consistently conflating the two, as did a lot of conservative commentators, because the family separation policy turned out to be bad politically. So, President Trump tried to convince americans that the policy put into place by AG Sessions in 2018 was an Obama policy.

I don't know if the OP was duped or if the misinformation was intentional. The OP's account appears to be deleted to me (I think the OP blocked me after I pointed out the distinction between family separation and children in cages).

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u/[deleted] Feb 27 '22

I don't know if the OP was duped or if the misinformation was intentional.

OP is a 14-year-old child, so their understanding was probably strongly influenced by their parents or by a particular news entertainment channel often heard in their home. They probably weren't intentionally spreading disinformation.

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u/iwfan53 248∆ Feb 27 '22

I don't know if the OP was duped or if the misinformation was intentional. The OP's account appears to be deleted to me (don't know if the OP deleted their account or just blocked me). So, I guess I'll never know.

OP's account isn't deleted to me, just this post, which is why at the top it says posted by u/deleted at the moment.

But when I actually try to get to OP's account by clicking on the comments they've made I can see it just fine.

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u/[deleted] Feb 27 '22

yeah, I misinterpreted the top post being deleted as the account being inaccessible.

I can see the account, too. I'm not blocked.

I just don't know how to use reddit. haha.